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This seems like an appropriate necro (see what I did there ) for all the people hating on reanimated skin.  Be sure to give this post a read if you have any doubts about how awesome hollow bags of walking deadly skin are.

Waiting is good.  No reason to hobble a years-long project by jumping the gun too soon, particularly if Toady stays true to his rapid-fire bugfix release schedule.

On that note, anyone interested in running through another 2 day turn test world?  I think I have time to get a fortress going, or at least skip enough sleep to get it done.  Might be good to identify DFVD-specific issues.

I rarely do anything more than 3x3, frequently 2x2.  I'd support a 16 tile cap with smaller embarks strongly encouraged.  I don't know if there's a way to incentiveize that.  Thoughts?

Thanks for keeping track of the turn list, Eric.  Would you mind putting me on there?  I asked a while ago (page 21).

Beardface approves extreme fangatude.

A lot/slightly more.

This looks like a great project.  Can't wait to see how much fun this is for adventurers once we have a few dozen fortresses built.

Please sign me up for a turn!

Regarding timing, with all the changes and new material coming for adventure mode, it's clear that when this project is fully completed it'll be better if it's done in the new release rather than 31.25.

With that said, it may be a while before we can get started, even after the new release.  We'll have to wait for DFHack and every other utility we want to use to be updated.  The initial releases are frequently buggy, so with a project as grand as this, it may be worth waiting for a few of the first bug fix releases.  That will also minimize the potential for bugs to crop up as the save passes through dozens of versions of DF in its year-long trek to greatness.  A few such bugs really put a damper on Skyscrapes as it moved from 31.02 to 31.25.

With that in mind, the huge and immediate interest in this project, the long wait times, and the talk of splitting this up into two worlds, I have the following suggestion:

Start a trial/demo succession world right now in 31.25.

It's going to be a long time before any release is as stable as .25, and in a project like this stability is key.  It'll also let people start playing right away and flag issues we haven't thought of yet.  Oh, and it'll be a fitting legacy for 31, a great last hurrah for future players to explore and get a flavor of this version.

I would start this up myself, but I currently have about 2 hours per week I can dorf, so I can only make the suggestion.  If someone agrees with me they should take the initiative and get this moving right away.

Set openness to maximum so you have nice, clean cave systems.  All the better for vertical planning.

I try to assuage my OCD by building in stages, with the first few permutations of the fort being "scaffolding" for the ultimate, immaculate result.

If you simply cannot stand to look at oddly colored stone there is a work around: mine out the offending walls and build appropriately colored ones.  Then use DFHack to hide the walls that shouldn't be exposed.  Voila, mischievous microcline cluster no longer ruins your grey-walled perfection.