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Quote from: Niveras on January 02, 2010, 08:27:49 pm

Some of these reactions look useful, but I am uncertain how to implement them. Do I just dump them at the end of reaction_standard.txt? Will it require genning a new world?

I am pretty clueless about reactions in general. I wanted to modify some reactions, mainly to make it a little less time consuming (and wood intensive) to make a fort out of clear glass, but I can't find the ash/potash/pearlash reactions. Are they hard coded? Searching the raw/objects folder, the only reference to them that I found were to things like kind of tree called ash, or the profession potash maker.

Likewise, how do I go about making items and armor out of glass? I presume I can just add [WEAPON] to the proper entry, but there doesn't appear to be a matgloss entry for glass or clear glass. I am running a mod (Relentless Assault) but it's not like I am missing these things in-game. Just can't find them in the raws.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Either add to the existing reaction_standard.txt file or make a new file called something like reaction_new.txt that contains the reactions you wish to add (you will also have to copy the first few lines of the reaction_standard.txt file, but change so that the name matches the new file). Yes in most cases they require a world regen (there is a way around this where you keep the name of an existing reaction and change the commands).

The ash/potash/pearlash reactions are hard coded though you can make your own reactions to supplement them.

Likewise glass is hard coded so you will be unable to easily make glass armor. Some one did do an all glass mod with tons of reactions (try a search for glass fortress).

[REACTION:MAKE_GLASS_GREEN_WEAPON]
[NAME:make green glass short sword]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:3:SMALLGEM:NO_SUBTYPE:GLASS_GREEN:NO_MATGLOSS]
[PRODUCT:100:25:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT:GLASS_GREEN:NO_MATGLOSS]

change GLASS_GREEN to GLASS_CLEAR or GLASS_CRYSTAL for the other types
change SMALLGEM (which would be cut raw glass) to GEM (a finished good called "Large cut green glass") or blocks or remove it and produce it unrealiscly (bad spelling)
WEAPON can be ARMOR,AMMO,PANTS,SHOES,HELMS,and so on just at the subtype is used from the same item_XXXX.txt
Glass has no matgloss there is no such thing as "Gold Green Glass" and so on
Hope this helps you

Thank you for all the help, I was wondering if I could keep the regular organs but rename them. If not it's fine.

yes you can keep all the regular organs, and use [BODYGLOSS:liver:chilli] and do that for every organ.. Or make your own (I'd go with that option) when you make the body part CON or CONTYPE it to whatever part and give it the [INTERNAL] tag thus making it like any other organ, P.S. [BODYGLOSS:upperbody:shell (or taco shell)] and this tag goes in the creature.txt not body.txt if I confused you im so sorry

well thanks for that its very useful to know and another thing giving a creature [EVIL] and [SAVAGE] tags does it show up on those maps or only when they are both present?

I've been messing around with the two very confusing tags [SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100] and [SPECIALATTACK_SUCK_BLOOD:50:100] at least to me they are confusing anyone know the full effect of both of them?
I played around with Inject_Extract and so far its the potency of whats being injected min:max, but I havent been able to see what Suck_Blood does my guess it feeds the creature

I think can speak and utterances work together, it just makes their speech a mess of words to other races but they seem to understand each other

just add [SHELL] tag and give them a [prefstring:hard shells] and if that makes them stronger or weaker use [DAMBLOCK:+1 or -1]  or any other value. like Caesar said. are they fragile [SEVERONBREAKS] that way if somthing is broken it come right off instead of getting mangled or waiting to be lopped off. Are they really alive? or magically powered? if they are powered by magic use [NO_EAT][NO_DRINK][NO_SLEEP][NOBLEED][NOBREATHE][NOTHOUGHT] this should remove the need of a brain, heart, lungs, throat, spines are needed at all times I think, and the no eat/drink/ and sleep tags just do as they say. Anthing else just ask,

Are they a friendly race? or evil, im going to download and find out but if they are insectoid and use lesser metals they sound barbaric and wild like a cute little kobold. They almost sound like my evil race The Urk Dasha large winter creatures with six arms and eyes, four legs, and poisoned tusks that can leave its prey immoblized forever, they use no weapons or armor all hand2hand which is a bit over powered but orks seem to manage killing them anyways. But this sounds cool and im always looking for some to civ to meet and kill/welcome to my fort

Milled products don't work because they are placed in a container (bag) and the smelter or REACTION looks at the bag and wonders what to do, try using the plant itself

REACTION:SAPLING_ASH_MAKING]
[NAME:burn saplings]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:10:PLANT:NO_SUBTYPE:SAPLING:NO_MATGLOSS]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:ASH:NO_MATGLOSS]
[FUEL]

now the only thing with  this is if the "sapling" is placed in a barrel it will be ignored, so either make its own stockpile that has barrels set to 0 and the food>plant>sapling is active only everything else is disabled

I did that for my tower-cap making


[MATGLOSS_PLANT:TOWER_CAP]
[TILE:'t'][COLOR:6:0:1]
[NAME:tower-cap][NAME_PLURAL:tower-caps]
[VALUE:2]
[GROWDUR:500]
[SEED:6:0:1]
[GENPOWER:2]
[AUTUMN][WINTER][SPRING][SUMMER]
[FREQUENCY:100]
[CLUSTERSIZE:5]
[BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
[PREFSTRING:hard leaves]
[WET][DRY]

[REACTION:MAKE_TOWER_CAP]
[NAME:make tower-cap logs]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:1:PLANT:NO_SUBTYPE:TOWER_CAP:NO_MATGLOSS]
[PRODUCT:100:1:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:WOOD:GIANT_SHROOM]
[PRODUCT:10:1:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:WOOD:GIANT_SHROOM]
[PRODUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT:TOWER_CAP]

I believe that might solve your problem but if your set on this milling technique, I can't help you there, maybe when the next update comes out where all or most workshops will be editable you can try some other method (your own version with milling) good luck and happy modding