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oh no it won't give color in game, I just used the color features of the forum to highlight related variables. DF handles the colorization on it's own.

And seems like it's going to be an interesting modification I for sure would like to prevent farmed food spam (in about a year or two you can go from 50 to 700 plump helmets) and those like to eat up all the free barrels that I need for brewing.

So if I may i'd like to give suggestions and/or tips that you may like to use or not use.

2. Since seeds will be acquired from brewing only, and seed return on the "shucking" is low, they should give a bit more and maybe renaming the crops to a plural or group "Plump Helmet Cluster/Bushel" so you need a cluster/bushel to brew booze and get some seeds, or take that cluster/bushel and clean/shuck/process for 2-4 edible chunks per cluster/bushel but only have your 25% chance of 1 seed per cluster/bushel.

2b. Changing the milk-able to something to do with by-product of eating seems a tad weird, however you could make a new material in the creature "night soil" and have them LAYS_UNUSAL_EGG to make them lay "night soil <item>" that way females can be milked and cheese made but now they will use nest boxes to produce your fertilizer. You can go further and use syndrome triggers to make it a requirement that they lay eggs or else pain or berserk or death may happen.

2c. Grazer will work, altho the CANSPEAK/BONECARN combo like be a bit problem-matic, makes sense that cats and dogs need to eat meat (bonecarn seems more like a dog item, and carnivore for cats) which means players need to keep a supply of meat as well for their furry friends. But will they be able to eat? lacking GRASP parts (unless make special mouths for carnivorous pets), and in that case will dogs and cats carry meat from the stockpile, goto the dining hall and eat at a table? or will this end up everything starving? Give it a shot tho.

also for ease sake all plants that you want this "additional" process to be on I suggest this on your crops/plants:
      [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:[color=orange]DRINK_MAT[/color]:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:[color=yellow]DRINK[/color]]
      [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:[color=orange]SEED_MAT[/color]:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:[color=yellow]SEED[/color]]
      [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:[color=orange]EDIBLE_MAT[/color]:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:[color=yellow]EDIBLE[/color]]

   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:[color=yellow]EDIBLE[/color]:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
      [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
      [EDIBLE_COOKED]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:plump helmet stalk]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten plump helmet stalk]
      [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:plump helmet stalk vapor]
And

   [REAGENT:[color=green]farmGood[/color]:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE] --- you can use lowercase for reagent names
      [HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:[color=orange]EDIBLE_MAT[/color]] --- now any plant containing [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:[color=orange]EDIBLE_MAT[/color]:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:[color=yellow]EDIBLE[/color]]

   [PRODUCT:100:1:PLANT:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:[color=green]farmGood[/color]:[color=orange]EDIBLE_MAT[/color]]
   [PRODUCT:25:1:SEEDS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:[color=green]farmGood[/color]:[color=orange]SEED_MAT[/color]]
also I would suggest two lines to produce seeds, but instead of 25:25 you should make it 85:10

that way you have 85% chance of getting a seed with a 10% chance of getting another, that way sometimes a plant will not yield a seed at all, but still allow you to attempt to replant.
Of course could leave it as 25% because brewing returns seeds, making you manage do you need more seeds and booze, or do you need more crops to eat. Nice touch.

if you really wish to tell if that is the case just look it up in "body_default.txt" but im sure it's just lacking the [SMELL] tag on that part.

I was just going through and updating my offline wiki when I saw NO_GENDER, and it's in my old wiki too. Was there a point in this tag because I thought leaving [MALE][FEMALE] out was enough to make it genderless?

I just realized fingers and toes are defined only once in creature raw, yet they shows in anything which have grasp-token. So... how to let's say have center body part which has multiple torsos attached into it? Or multiple heads, or anything multiple which isn't supposed attached like that!

Because I broke my mind while trying mod something complete insane...

Multiple upper bodies are impossible last time I tried, and they show on everything that is a GRASP(fingers) or STANCE(toes) because the body parts have [CONTYPE:GRASP/STANCE] making it so there is 1 to many. You can also use [CON_CAT:custom category(UPPER_ARM)] to attach to all parts categorized as UPPER_ARM.

But connecting in this way gives you weird combat text like "you attack the goblin in it's right upper arm's boil!) because the part is connected via CONTYPE or CON_CAT it takes on some of its parent's name

But using CON doesn't have that effect, why when you attack creatures it only says "you attack the creature's lower leg" instead of "you attack the creature's upper leg's lower leg" which just seems weird.

note Attacks can be used in this manner too to make more interesting and easy attacks

[ATTACK:ELBOW_BASH:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ARM_LOWER:BY_CATEGORY:JOINT] ---Elbow Bash
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bash:bashes]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:85]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]

I'm looking to add faces to body plans but it has been a very long time since I've got into modding creatures.  Does anybody know of a mod where this or something similar has been done that can help guide me along?

My goal is to be able to punch a character in the face and damage their eyes or nose, much in the way that the heart can be damaged by stabbing the upper body.  As a extra benefit, this would allow me to use the word face instead of head in character descriptions.  "He has a round face" sounds better than the default "his head is very short" or whatever.

might require a heavy rework of the raws, unless you're only affecting civilized creatures (elves, dwarves, humans, goblins) you will need two things:
Body Detail Plan (this is so you can tell the 'face' to be on the front of the head)
and the bodypart (and facial features that will connect to the new 'face')

also when that is done don't forget to layer the face with SKIN, and maybe MUSCLE, debatable on FAT

it's the goblins ethics of murdering one another, just change that in their entity

Quote from: HailFire on July 12, 2014, 11:57:17 am

-What is the current status of egg-laying for civs? I know there's been discussion here, but I haven't been able to find it, and the wiki's somewhat vague on the subject.

4. The main problem would be with the egg-layer getting hungry or thirsty. If the layer gets off of the eggs for any reason, then the eggs can no longer hatch. There would also be the issue of someone trying to store, cook, or eat the eggs. Disabling that egg type in the stockpiles and the cooking menu would fix this though.

If you look into Syndromes and COUNTER_TRIGGERS you will find EGG_SPENT in which you could have it add NO_EAT, NO_DRINK, and NO_SLEEP for however long it takes an egg to hatch.