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You can join a civ if you can get a site leader to accept you as a hearthperson (or maybe entertainer). You can make people like you by giving them gifts, especially named gifts. You can carve bones into trinkets, name them, give them to some lord or lady, then ask them to make you a hearthperson.

Spoiler: There is also a bug exploit (click to show/hide)

 where you can trick the game into having people to give you their position. That automatically makes you a member of that civ.

you could also just retire in a civ site that usually get you citizenship though at that point you also could just unretire another adventurer.

also I think the reason the outsiders can't do this is probably a way how the game handles civilizations as it seems like they are all splinter off the main one the adventurer came from and having no civ to start from would either error out or draw from nothing which would lead to a civ with no entity or ethics to draw from.
so as a bandaid outsiders just don't get to claim.

though I guess a good answer to this would be to party up with a different adventurer so that you don't end up getting lock out by character creation, sure sucks for solo play but uhh man multi-adv party runs are a life savior on scenarios like these since you could have someone from a civ just claim the site then hearthperson the outsider and or be able to retire the group regardless of starting point since one of them became the lord of the site.

Quote from: Toady One on February 01, 2021, 11:19:26 pm

People with forced periodic body transformations, a corpse animation effect, or NOT_LIVING were the ones I was targeting

NOT_LIVING I can see being the most problematic for modders given there may be non-biological civilized creatures afoot. How easy would it be to add an additional syndrome class for generated ressurection syndromes to the hardcode, and exclude those? Like how vampires and werebeasts have a syndrome type to look out for that prevents stacking curses.

this might lock out resurrected adventurers from ever showing up to a fort through the visitor method if this goes through.
though I wonder a middle ground to this if it did work would be in fort mode you can just toggle the type of magical visitors you accept, since there already a selected limits of who could show up to your locations already adding a 'No supernatural' for taverns and what not then have it be default to on so folks who want a necromancer bard to show up could just toggle it off.

I'm sure all your "friends" in the HFS will be more than happy to show you what you can do while your there.

yeah so it seems like this set up just needs someone to have a background to this camp that spawns you deep below to have it work, which means I could just ferry folks to this place over and over again.
also yeah succeed in the goal of pulling this mess off with out needing to dig through the caverns.

God got done reading this and the big reveal was 'oh yeah I check this character bio with dfhack' which means technically Icar could achieve their wish one way or another.


and having been the one who technically seen the result of inter-species Adventurer families uhh looking at this hybrid wolf child would probably Crash the game or well in 47.04 I don't know if that would be the case for 47.05 given what the werebreeding fix did to the game. also said issue could also be fixed with dfhack so uhh...

that pub scene in this comic got me thinking how many named items could one give to clear up the debt made for that pub I feel like 10 items would do it.

Quote from: Rumrusher on January 07, 2021, 04:39:43 am

really have no clue how to update this for 2021.
like last I remember of Switching modes I had to do a bunch of tests and data changes to even prevent the game from crashing... and I didn't really map out or make a script to solve that.
also this is like predates advfort and going by the thread updates predates vanilla retiring.
it's been like 10 years since I made this thread.

Do you know dfhack scripting that change site type?

well it's more this thread kind of became a tad obsolete, like if I have to update the thread it would probably be

"well toady made it so it's less struggles to retire a fort and retire an adventurer given advcamps exist and one could retire in a retired fort now."

edit 5/29/2022: hey decided to update the thread since while it's a bit obsolete it's probably best be used as means to cover what made it obsolete there's more written in the v.3 update than what I wrote above. hopefully the folks who PTW this thread all those years ago now get an update that covers the 10+ year gap.

oh yeah I went and drawn more fanart of this character.

well I recently discover the power of Ghost's battering beings to death as it could lop off limbs of larger creatures like hill titans but also the fright mechanic only works on beings that feel fear so the instant death attack isn't doable on uhh bogeymen and I haven't tested this uhh spiderfolk. but that pails in comparison to the stun option which randomly gives a debuff to the person and repeatedly telling the ghost to just wallop on said person.
so far the use of this in an ambush encounter is more running away and hoping your spiritual friend catches who ever is assaulting you before you get killed and sneaking up on foes and striking with a phantom limb.

overall this script I made and posted in the dfhack thread works with ordering all ghosts in the area so having like 6 ghost companions and telling them to assault a dragon will lead to 6 batter reports or 6 stun debuffs or 6 possession tantrums or 1 scare to death and 5 attempts to do the same thing but the dragon is already dead.