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General Discussion / Re: An evolutionary thread.
« on: April 05, 2010, 10:34:25 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: Let's discuss 'Avatar.'
« on: April 05, 2010, 10:31:20 pm »
Actually my point is that who was there first is no longer a valid argument, as most (and, soon enough, all) of the current generation of people living there have lived there their whole lives. It's just a matter of degree between Palestinians there 60 years ago and Jews there 2000 years ago. I didn't intend "the Jews were there firster" as a valid argument (I had hoped that use of the word "firster" would make that clear), but as a demonstration of why "The Palestinians were there first" is invalid.

For the time being, living memory does include people still alive. 20 years from now, though, that numbers going to start getting vanishingly small. And quite frankly, this far down the line from when all the troubles began, arguing about who started it is completely pointless and detrimental to solving the problem because nobody who WAS alive at the time is going to admit to contributing and everyone born since has been thrust unwillingly into the situation.

Guess you just missed the possibility that I'm not a moron, though.

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General Discussion / Re: An evolutionary thread.
« on: April 05, 2010, 10:21:59 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: Let's discuss 'Avatar.'
« on: April 05, 2010, 04:38:51 pm »
The Muslims were there first and basically all they're asking for (besides the minority of extremists; the rest of the terrorists - who are also a minority I might add - join up with them because they grow up in apartheid ghettos under military occupation with no human rights) is to be able to live in their own country in peace

I just want to say, this is more complicated than you're making it out to be. The Jews were there firster. Both groups have incorporated the land into the traditions at the roots of their cultures. It's not so easy as to say that one side has a legitimate claim and the other doesn't.

Also, I was gonna go see Clash of the Titans. Does it suck badly enough to warrant seeing, or is it merely mediocre?

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General Discussion / Re: ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE
« on: April 05, 2010, 01:45:02 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: An evolutionary thread.
« on: April 04, 2010, 09:15:19 pm »
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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Woah, I just did something amazing..
« on: April 04, 2010, 08:33:13 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: An evolutionary thread.
« on: April 04, 2010, 04:47:43 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: Let's discuss 'Avatar.'
« on: April 04, 2010, 04:10:33 pm »
To be fair, Colonel McBadass seemed to actually be more about vengeance for all the people, including probably friends, he'd seen killed on Pandora. He didn't seem to care about the economics at all, really. He was angry and the Na'vi were not only convenient targets, but partially responsible for what he viewed as a grave injustice (while the Na'vi view the human intrusion and lack of concern for their culture as the grave injustice). It's clear that he's sufficiently prideful that he doesn't even consider the possibility that his side is wrong, but his motivation is mostly (what he views as righteous) vengeance. Or at least, that's what I got out of it.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Dwarven king is an...
« on: April 04, 2010, 11:20:34 am »
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General Discussion / Re: Let's discuss 'Avatar.'
« on: April 04, 2010, 09:39:26 am »
Just to point out, I suspect that The Architect is differentiating between Evolution as a thing that happens, and Evolution as the established means of generation for all life. The first is what you're all arguing about, and while there IS substantial evidence for the second (and, honestly, one implies the other and such a distinction is extremely artificial IMHO), you're coming at it sideways, because The Architect is saying that the second is what there is problems with (I'm not aware of any, as the ones he listed earlier on aren't actually useful objections due to the Sun's outside energy input, the frequent repurposing of pre-existing parts for new purposes, etc).

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General Discussion / Re: Let's discuss 'Avatar.'
« on: April 03, 2010, 11:23:08 pm »
Ok, well, as for empirical evidence, I made a post elsewhere on this forum discussing that...

Here's the quote with some basic evidence laid out near the bottom, although I admit the tone is rather insulting as a response to the poster I was quoting. I may have misconstrued what you posted about evolution, though, so I apologize for that. If you're not being willfully ignorant, then I'll try to be civil in the future. Here's the quote, though, for reference

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Your quite frankly outrageous statement that there has been no documented evidence of evolution is staggering, but has been far more effectively countered than I could possibly arrange to have done, but let me add that numerous aspects of existing life make no goddamn sense if you don't look at them with evolution in mind. Your ear, for instance, has two cranial nerves innervating it, despite its small size and the great distance between the nerves. This makes sense, because the bones (and attached muscle) that currently make up the ear USED to be jaw bones that were separated by a fair bit, and it was sensible for them to have separate nerves. Or look at the tongue; it has 5(!) different cranial nerves that lead to it, and the only way this makes sense is if God was preposterously high while He was Creating (although that would explain a hell of a lot), or if the tongue was cobbled together from 5 disparate muscle sets (which it was). There is INCREDIBLY well documented transition from fin bone structure in lobe-finned fishes to tetrapod, and the ancestral arrangement of humerus, radius + ulna, carpals, metacarpals, phalanges, remains in essentially every living vertebrate known. This doesn't make much particular sense, unless God was unimaginative in addition to being stoned out of his gourd, since there innumerably more sensible ways of accomplishing the same task. I could go on, if you'd like.

At any rate, I agree that bringing this debate up in the first place was really a poor choice on Jude's part. It's wholly tangential, really, and the only reason I'm participating in it is that it's a pet peeve of mine when people dismiss the whole thing as "a theory" or "in violation of physical laws" or other reasons that either miss the point entirely or fail to actually be accurate. My best excuse is that telling me evolution doesn't make sense is like telling a mathematician that addition doesn't make sense. Anyway, that said, if you'd like I can probably fetch you references for those particular facts I mentioned in the wall o' text quote up there, it'll just take me a bit since they're from memory.

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