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It is a bearded pig, a species native to Borneo. The most Dwarfly pig that there ever was.

Quote from: Owlbread on October 11, 2012, 03:47:30 pm

Quote from: Urist McDwarfFortress on October 11, 2012, 03:45:06 pm

I suppose I could load up a minecart shotgun with cheese.

Or simply hogs.

You can't load animals into a minecart. You'd have to put them in cages first and then load them up. In that case, you might as well just fling cages at your enemies.

Hogs.

Quote from: Craterface on October 11, 2012, 03:38:51 pm

Weaponiiiiise

I suppose I could load up a minecart shotgun with cheese.

Or simply hogs.

War pig does have a certain ring to it.

It certainly does.

Quote from: Montague on October 11, 2012, 10:56:47 am

The Kurds hate the Syrian government because they are routinely oppressed by it. Actually, Kurds pretty much hate everybody they live, PDK is a multinational and very popular separatist movement, after all.

But Syria was far more tolerant of the Kurds than Turkey or Saddam's Iraq was. And Syria has at times turned a blind eye to PKK sanctuaries on the Turkish border. And perhaps most importantly: While Kurds pretty much hate everbody whose rule they're under, they also hate those "other" Kurds in a different faction. They're the freakin' Judean Peoples' Front/Peoples' Front of Judea writ large. The PDK is but one Iraqi faction, and was at war with the KUP and PDK for a time.

I dunno, I could see it going either way. A few years ago, there was a major schism in the PKK between the Turkish-born Kurds and the Syrian-born Kurds who had come into Turkey and joined up with the PKK. The Turkish Kurds were more inclined to accepting an amnesty deal from the new AKP government, the Syrian Kurds were more inclined to allying (at least rhetorically) with al-Qaeda and stepping up terrorist attack in the west of Turkey. A lot of the Turkish Kurds wound up coming in from the cold, and then the remaining PKK got its ass handed to itself for several months by the Turkish Army. Not clear how much of that remnant wound up in Syrian sanctuaries, how much went to Iraq (where they're treated like unwelcome cousins) or how much went up into Azerbaijian.

However, despite this leniency, the Kurds in that region still rose against the Syrian government, effectively "drawing blood". The only people that the Syrian Kurds have had open conflict with has been the Syrian Government. I don't see any going back from that.

Quote from: Owlbread on October 09, 2012, 08:30:18 am

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 08, 2012, 09:46:10 pm

Time I spend IRL watching a caravan cross the wilderness is time not spent watching my outpost bloom into a fortress.

But, I don't see the point of what you're saying. It's not like you would just watch the caravan move from A to B, you would be given messages like "Your caravan is crossing through the Forests of Aching. This forest reeks of death and vile torture. You see a blah blah blah". The journey could happen off-screen. Eventually, there would be a situation when you have to cross a river or fight a bear Jeremiah Johnson style or other such wild traveller things, or maybe an ambush or whatever. One of your party could become sick and you have to hunt for medicine for them, who knows. If you don't want it, you'd have a choice because it's an optional feature, just... don't choose to follow the journey. It's not like you have to. The fact that it's optional means that there's no point in complaining about it using up your time.

I missed the optional part.
Now let's get into better detail. IIRC, Toady said that the player is supposed to represent the leadership of the fortress or somesuch. What could the player, in that position, do to affect the caravan or even know about it?

That contradicts with what Toady has said about his ambition (as far as I know) to seamlessly integrate adventure mode and fortress mode together. I would also like to hear exactly what he said about what the player represents, because that's the first I've ever heard about that.

It is also quite simple, if what you say is the situation. The leadership of the people taking the journey to build your fortress are the same as the leadership of the people who run your fortress - quite literally so, considering the expedition leader of the caravan is the same guy as the expedition leader of your fort.

Quote from: Owlbread on October 09, 2012, 08:46:29 am

Quote from: Zrk2 on October 09, 2012, 08:35:20 am

At this point I think he's too old. He'd croak if he won.

But could you see a Paul/Paul ticket? That would be funny.

He's auld, and he'd be 81 years old which would be a point of discussion and hubub, but he's still as energetic as ever right now at 77. If he's got a good vice presidential candidate by his side, you won't get a situation like we had with Sarah Palin and John McCain - she was only a heartbeat away from presidency.

More like a heart attack away from presidency.

get it because McCain is really old

Actually, that's the whole point of the expression "only a heartbeat away from the presidency" - if that heartbeat wasn't there, she'd be in.

As a point of discussion, I was pondering whether we could see Romney come back again for 2016 if he loses in November. He might end up like McCain or Al Gore and just retreat from that whole scene. Who, among the Republican candidates, will we see? I had a thought that perhaps Ron Paul is calculating that if he keeps doggedly running for the nomination every time, building up his movement, he may eventually win because there's nobody else credible enough to do it.