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My civilians are wiping the floor with unicorns when I don't even pay attention, I don't know what the deal here is.  Unarmed, unarmored, not taking a scratch...

But yeah, instead of 'fear' for small critters it should be 'ignore'.  Though it would also be nice to specifically beat up on thief-critters.

It seems like the elves should claim areas that extend out from their forests, especially when there's like...one little hill in their forest...or when there's a bare patch between forests.

Of course I guess that's a distinction between controlled and claimed territory:  Civs might actually control weird jagged areas, but certainly they'd want to claim something rounder (and as much as possible).  Even if they've barely seen what they're claiming...

It's not that few people have been inspired.  It's that books are already a well-known future feature!

Distant future.  But still there.

And how should they decide, in a siege, between a stack of ten bolts sitting right next to them and a stack of fifty sitting a hundred tiles away?

I'm sure something satisfactory will happen around the same time as restacking goes in...  

'probably would not be a big thing' is quite incorrect.  The underlying terrain would be quite different.  The biggest problem is if you came to visit the place in adventurer mode:  The site around the fortress would not match up with any of the surrounding terrain, the cliffs would be mismatched, rivers would come from nowhere and go to nowhere.  It might look alright in reclaim mode, but if you imported the dwarves too, that would be a big headache--your trading partners would be gone, nobles would be from nonexistant places, etc.

The problems would become a much bigger deal in later versions.  Soon, real armies will be moving overland to siege you--so it would be a problem if terrain doesn't match up between the borders of your fort and the rest of the world.

Other major issues:  Your fortress will probably have art in it.  Art refers to people and events that wouldn't exist in the new world.  Again, future versions will make this problem a lot worse as forts are tied more to the history of their own world.  And consider that many of the new features you want will *come* from your fort being tied to the world:  If you yank it out of a past version, you wouldn't get those things anyway!

Of course Toady is the final authority but I'm just saying, don't get your hopes up.  Writing code to make a game backwards compatible is already a major challenge!

There is no flooding yet.

I don't think there's very much preventing you, at the moment.  If you want large scale changes, you can just remove all your walls/floors and rebuild them.  For simpler stuff, well...

First off, remember that a ceiling is exactly equal to a floor, so adding a new floor to a building is one of the simplest changes you could make!  You just have to tear out your down staircase and replace it with an up/down one and you're set.

As for building new walls on constructed floors, well, you can at least remove the floor and put wall where it used to be.