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It wasn't so much of a statement of Bone+Hood=~=Metal Helm, but more of a 'It seems your decently new to this, so, I'm gonna just remind you about this little feature of the game. ;3' Which, I'll admit, I am, I'm still embarking on 'calm' and 'Mirthful' Flat Zones and praying nothing tooo bad shows up, still figuring out decent 'Goblin Detection' Systems, as well as figuring out how to cleanse out my first ever Cavern Layer, but so is the fun of learning the game. ^.^

Quote from: slothen on March 09, 2012, 04:03:15 pm

bone helms look cooler, and you can still wear them with leather hoods.

Considering hoods are always 'cover' and helmets are always 'armor' layer and 'cover' is over armour, I don't see how this works. Leather hoods can be worn over ANY helmet, no?

uhh.... what? You... proved no innacuracies in her statement... yes leather hoods can be worn over any helmet... That doesn't make her statement of 'oh, btw, remember you can also wear hoods over the Bone Helms' any LESS true...

and yes, Bonehelms do look cool.

So, got my fort... mooostly established. (Forgot to tweek certain settigns, but blah) But, I'm at the issue of, I don't quuiiiiite have enough metals circulating my fort to get my military Armored, (weaponed, yes, armored? nooo....) and I was wondering if bothering with the bone pieces would be a worthwile endeavor, or if I should just save that for bolts/crafts and just wear leather pieces instead. (As far as my searching goes, the wiki says nothing on this matter.)

!!Fun!! with Cave Ins.

So, I was channeling out the roof of a part my farms that I wanted to start growing surface plants... and an idea hits me, rather than dig this thing out tile by tile... why not dig out the borders and let the rest of it just cave in! BRILLIANT!

And, I do so, and everything seems to have gone according to plan... but, where's Legendary Miner Urist..... and uh... why is there a hole... in my hole... and then I notice at the bottom of my screen: 'Urist McMedic cancels retrieve patie-*more*' and rather than bring up announcements, I zoom down to the end of the shaft that a chain of caveins made, straight down 6 Zlevels... right into my Hospital, and the corpse of Urist McLegendaryMiner.

All I could picture was, Urist McMedic, sitting at his desk, when he hears a rumbling crash roll through the Fortress, so he sighs, because he just KNOWS that SOMEONE is going to be hurt... stands up, puts on his gloves... and then about 10 feet behind him, the roof caves down with the mutilated body of the unfortunate Miner, he turns, looks, sits down, and strikes off Urist McMiner from his list of future check-ups with a whisperred "Nevermind..."

Couldn't you use a pump to pump water over the last edge?

If your following my little list to do, yes, you can make pumps instead of Floodgates, and completely skip the last channel bit. I personally didn't say anything because it's less !!fun!! that way (Not that there's much !!fun!! involved here, but every little bit counts) and, I'm assuming the OP doesn't quuiiiite know enough about dwarven engineering to actually get pumps working. I know I haven't, but I have used this method to make a moat, and a river fed irrigation system, with 0 casualties. ^.^

The usefullness of fortifications scale inversly with the enemy archer skill ratings, so, high level bowmen/crossbowmen, won't care about them, but most of the trashier, inexperienced goboes, won't be able to do much to them.

Edit: So put things in a maybe more accurate light, normally, no Fortifications are fantastic, but when Goblin Legolas Rolls around with his Fully Automatic Sniper rifle, well, not a fuck is given. Odds are, the 'goblin bowmen' that wrecked your force, was mostly lowbies who didn't do jack, while an Elite, with his super top level speed just mowdowned your forces.

If my understanding of whips/scourge/flail is correct, you want to reduce wait, and velocity, and increase contact area, that way they can't jackhammer so much as Mallet.