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I just started a new fort in a nice place (Cold, major river which I can easily modify to make an awesome moat, lots of trees to burn, plenty of grazing area) and I'm now working on getting magma for forges. I looked at the pump stack and magma piston articles but is there really any point?

Even if magma is 100z levels down couldn't I just build a stairway top to bottom? If moving up/down a z level takes the same time as regular horizontal movement then it won't be to much for my smiths to be working down there and then come up to eat/drink/sleep. Of course the bar stockpiles would have to be down there with them but I see no reason to even put food/drink stockpiles down there.

What do you guys think?

You need to go to the military screen and set their alert to active/train, I was having your same problem untill I did that. Now my archery range is littered with bolts.

Also remember to channel out the squares behind the target so you can recollect the bolts that miss.

Besides that I never said that I'm against using exploity methods, the only reason I'm not making a dorfen reactor is because I've yet to make a design that I like.

I've been reading the articles on flow and waterwheels from the wiki because I'm trying to set up power to a pump stack. I understand that waterwheels need flow to work but the article on flow focuses on the more pressure related and exploit based ways to get flow.

What I want is much more simple, I plan on redirecting the brook on my map to go under my fortress (built around a volcano). I plan to filter out anything that gets in the river with vertical grates. It will then feed a cistern and pass through another grate and out the other side (ideally the water in the cistern would have flow). Then I would have a whole pile of waterwheels drawing power from the river. Then I want to dump it out the edge of the map using the fortification trick, I think that this would keep the river "flowing" in the waterwheel sense.

I just want to know if this is going to work. Would I have to use other methods of draining the brook off the map? For example sending it back arond to the original exit point, or meerly spliting the brook instead of totally redirecting it.

Quote from: Azated on January 16, 2012, 12:47:45 am

You can always just annoy the humans/elves and melt down the remains of their sieges. That, along with goblinite, should be more than enough metal for all your dwarfy needs.

I don't think elves use metal and you'll get more iron from the humans by trading them rock kitsch than slaughtering them.

Only problem is there are no humans, and the elves are hard to get mad in this version due to bugs, I am preping for goblin invasion but have had no indicators.

It is a 2x2 embark, the lack of metal balances out artifact silver mauls, volcanoes, flux, and highmaster migrants.

And dfhack seems to be working, I can discount the existince of metals without dfhack but I've taken out whole layers of my mountain and have been doing exploratory work in the caverns. Lots of gems, no metal.

Yes, does that show up in dfhack's prospector? And if it does is it under the Ore heading, becasue if it is I have none.