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A target selection during combat. My liberals have the bad habit of shooting the college student while fighting the security guards

It's a carryover from obliette I think?
Anyhow, you think that's bad? How about when your liberal accidentally shoots at the green secretary instead of shooting that red security guard?

heh. If you accidentally talk to like 20 people, you lose a few of them. Big whoop. (IIRC you can safely talk to 8-10 people, no problem... and I don't see why you would need to do so)
If you accidentally try to seduce 20 people in 1 day, you will almost definitely be ambushed by them.
And 20x -5 = -100 juice. That's a pretty stiff penalty/downside!

Really, I only ever encounter praguepride's problem when I am starting a new game... at that point, my founder can hire 6 people, so talking to more than 10 in 1 day is quite a good idea.
Other than that though, I don't even understand why you are getting the "double booked" message. Why do you talk to so many people anyway?

I managed to get 1 LCS member to 76 years old... 2060 I believe. What about you guys? What's the oldest you've managed to have anyone? Can people die of old age in this game? Has anyone gone up past 2100 to spaceball bats and such?

Second, persausion should be less grindy if there's such a huge penalty associated with "over-talking". Maybe if you gained more then .01 persausion per person talked to it wouldn't seem so imperitive to talk to as many people as possible.

Maybe something like INT + JUICE LEVEL + PERSAUSION - WOUNDS = approximate # of people per day

Agreed on persuasion being too grindy. Talking to people also grind law, science, religion, so it's really really grindy. Ech.

Hah. So, someone with 9 int and 9 pers could talkto to 18 people a day? +/-
That's very much higher than current levels. Currently, it's probably "safe" to talk to 5 people a day. Anyhow, with recruitment caps so low, why do you WANT to talk to 18 people a day? Just to grind up persuasion and skills?
 
Seduction, even with 14 seduction skill, you can be ambushed for dating 2 people at once. The safe number is ONE PERSON at a time.
 
From that point of view, with a soft limit of 1 for dating, a soft limit of 5 for persuasion seems ok...
 
It took me a while to get used to the system. (a few weeks of in-game time?) but once I got used to it, I was fine. Just STOP TALKING TO PEOPLE for no reason.
 

Shouldn't you put this under the "Things to fix or do in the next release " thread? ... well, I'll leave it  to you or coronel or jon to shift this over or not.
 
Anyhow, recruitment through persuasion is very very "grindy" at the moment. It has shifted from "talk to many many people in 1 day" to "talk to 5 people a day... for many many days". Same dif, but just spread over time.
 
but, praguepride.... you're doing it wrong.
 
#1. Basically, the current system, if you have been talking to a couple of hanging judges and carefully nurturing them... STOP talking about issues with homeless guys! Problem solved. Basically, if you already have a few guys who you badly want to recruit, you're supposed to stop recruiting new guys.
 
#2. I don't get the problem of getting people to look away if you want to steal... I just move 1 step left, then 1 step right. Done. However I have talked to greenies just before I open fire and shoot up a bunce of reds.
 
#3. Yeah, it's a bit frustrating when this happens. But, again, it can be said it's your own fault for "talk"ing to so many people. Heck, if you find this bad, "seduction" should be killing you. I get frustrated when my person with 14 seduction gets ambushed for trying to date 2 people at once. And TWO people is very very easy to do by accident, since you can date 1 person on Monday and have them "see you tomorrow" then you forget about it and press "seduce" on Tuesday.
 
Currently, it's not so much illogical and frustrating. It's UNFORGIVING. The current system, as long as you don't do something that "breaks the rules", you won't get in trouble.
 
Basically, as long as each recruiter does not "talk" to more than 1-2 people a day, or if you talk to 5 people on 1 day, you don't talk to anymore people at all until those 5 are dealt with, you should be fine.
 
 

The reason is just because there's only one CEO and it's a big house;

So big it warps time and space? I met 2 CEOs at once during one of my encounters...

oh, grafitti juice isn't capped at 50 anymore?

MOAR MOAR MOAR MOAR EDIT: Ok, won the game. That was way easier than I thought. My leader had initially stats and skills fit for a lawyer, recruited hippies to the cap and had them write for the Guardian. Then he sprayed graffiti, and whenever caught, defended himself in the court. He also financed all operations by selling portaits. In the end he had about 200 juice. Possibly the weakest leader I've ever had, but ah, still so strong! Perhaps I should try again in conservative nightmare mode. Death squads can be a problem though.

How did you get your leader to 200 juice? Don't legal actions have a juice cap of 50 or something?