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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: Possible to survive without iron?
« on: January 01, 2012, 07:10:50 pm »
Some of my most enjoyable forts had no iron for me to be complacent on. Tips...

1: Lots of marksdwarves to keep them out of the way of enemies - use copper for your armour, crossbows and bolts.

2: If you have copper and tin, go for bronze as weapon and armour material of choice.

3: If you must have melee troops, give them sliver or copper blunt weapons.

4: Import all the iron and steel you can. Bars, iron ores, lost of metal toys, crafts, pots and so on that you can melt down to recycle.

5: Re-use any iron goods dead goblins leave behind if good quality. If not, melt and recycle.

6: Traps are your friend. Cages are a bit OP as to not be fun. Weapontraps with spiked balls from copper or sliver are fun, as are glass discs. Failing that, go for someting more elaborate.

7: You can always import weapons and armour of decent materials and qualities of you are patient and short of a decent weapon or armoursmith.

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Man, this has to be the worst thread I have read through in a long time. Wacko apocalypse argument, Religion debate, and absurd sinophobia (if thats even a word - ah it will do). The sooner it is locked/forgotten about the better.

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General Discussion / Re: New Year's Dreams?
« on: January 01, 2012, 05:13:08 pm »
I am going to go eat a lot of cheese and drink some scotch. Results, if any, will be reported tomorrow.

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By taking me to the scene of whatever slaughter I initiate next? :)

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I knew they were capable of problem solving (so are certain types of shrimp, even more suprisingly), but do they communicate? If so, then I geuss I will abandon my preconception that intelligence, social grouping and communication tend to occur in threes.

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Not that I want to make you jealous or anything, but I have 2.  :P

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No. Just no. There is all kinds of things that makes the human species special. There is not a single thing that makes it superior to other animals. You're going to have to justify that claim with something far stronger than "I looked into the eyes of my baby and a natural instinct made me filled with love to him and therefore human life is worth more than other life."

Geuss what I am trying to say is that I never have and never will get that feeling about any other species... and strongly doubt that any other animal species is capable of such a complex/advanced response. I know its not a great justification, but us giving such a big shit about the well being of other humans (be it in a positive or negative way) to me seems like an important thing. We are driven by our emotions, which frame our experiences. You can play "Angus Dei" to any number of animals with minimal response, but play it to a human and it will produce sorrow, loss, anger, joy... ignoring the selection effect that the aforementioned bit of music was created by a human for humans with the intent of stirring the soul. Mind you, snakes havent quite got around to making art just yet.

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The human brain is not fully developed until after 25-30 years. There is no connection between intelligence and family. Animals have both languages and culture, though not as advanced.

Yes, but fully developed is not the same as "developed enough to move and communicate", the general state that other mammals are born in, ignoring the fact that thier brains never reach the level of complexity that ours do. If humans were born at a level of 18 months development a lot of the issues raised here about how useless babies are compared to a pig would be irrelevant, ignoring the fact that giving birth to such a baby would be impossible due to its head diameter (hell, thats big enough in a to-term baby anyway in terms of body proportionality).

AFAIK animal species that display rudimentary intelligence and communication also form some form social grouping... maybe I am wrong in assuming that the two form some kind of feedback loop.

And apologies for my lack of verbosity, I am taking a night off from proof reading my posts 3 times. Its new year after all.

Still, after all this, I am pro choice.

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It's such a gradual thing that to go "Okay so she's been carrying for 12 weeks, the baby is human now" is as absurd as to go "Okay so the baby's born now, it's human all of a sudden" or "Okay so the sperm is mature enough to form an embryo, it's a human now".

Chinese culture (cant recall which particular bracnh) considers a baby to be one year old from its moment of birth... but that probably creates as many questrions as it answers really.

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Excellent...  8)

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But thats just it - people are people. Animals are not. But thats probably the carnivore in me speaking.
And blacks are blacks, and whites are whites. Men are men, and women are women. You do realize this is the exact line of thinking every racist and sexist has ever used right?


All spoons are cutlury, but not all cutlery is spoons. Humans are a special and wonderful kind of animal IMHO, far more so than any domesticated creatureFirstly, I shall ignore the potential insinuation that I am either a sexist or racist. Secondly, the point I was trying to make was that Homo Sapiens Sapiens ae not Canines, Felines, Bovines, or anything - we are far more. This is something that I was only aware of when I looked into the eyes of my first born when she was seconds old - human life is wonderful. This isnt to say that fish life, or lizard life or whatever isnt fantastic - they are, just not quite up there with us. I refuse wholehartedly that considering Humanity special and more important to humanity than pretty much any living organism that we know of is in any way, shape or form a negative behavioural trait.

Do not forget that the reason our offspring are so much more stunted than those of other species is due to our bipedal posture (infants needing to be born before brain develops due to narrowness of birth canal), which in part is probably responsible for our intelligence. You probably couldnt have such a smart species in our image without having babies that seemed uselessness. In tun this allwed stronger family units to develop, and all the benefits that come with it like langauge, culture etc.

Still, having said all this, the idea that it would be ok to kill near term babies because it is ok to kill pigs is absurd. At least pigs are killed for food - which brings us back to the whole "human need" thing...

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Using the end of the first trimester as a benchmark has been an accepted measure for a long time, and one I don't see any reason to change.

I should do a little research on why this benchmark is accepted, because the fact that it's accepted doesn't do anything for me.

AFAIK its to do with the whole 12 weeks thing. Most parents are told not to announce thier preganacy until after 12 weeks. This is as most failed pregnancies miscarry before the 12th week. Its also the week in which parents are offered the first ultrasound scan to check the foetus is developing as expected - its early enough to spot most major issues, and early enough to allow any treatment not to be to damaging to the mother. Getting pregnant isnt quite as easy as badly educated teen parents make out. Most attempts lead to millions of dead sperm and an unfertilized egg. Even if it does get fertilized it probably wont even undergo mitosis correctly. Even if it does it probably wont make it to the uterine lining...
But it does have a human brain nonetheless, and that is why a baby is a person and a fetus isn't.
So as long as it's a human brain, and not an animal brain, it's a person. Because humans are humans, and animals are animals.
Yeah, pretty much. You don't see animals building skyscrapers, so it's not exactly subjective to say that we're kind of the odd species out when it comes to mentality.

You do realize, "it's moral because we are human and we say so" isn't actually a valid argument?


But who else gets to decide the morals? Arent they a constructed set of boundaries based on what behavoirs we are exposed to?

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Would you ever consider euthanasing your dog, or ever had any pet euthanised?

But thats just it - people are people. Animals are not. But thats probably the carnivore in me speaking.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: December 31, 2011, 08:02:37 am »
Well, you see, he's just not doing enough for 'Corporations' and massaging 'job creators'.   We need someone to put the focus back where it belongs:  Helping the Rich

Right, that makes sense, as the rich fund your politicians through bribes donations dont they?


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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: December 31, 2011, 07:07:27 am »
So, let me get this straight. America has its most liberal and progressive president for a LONG time, and he is trying to set in action changes that should do long term good (e.g. healthcare reform). His policies help endear your nation to the more liberal nations that make up the core of Europe, repairing much of the damage done by Bush and his "yeehaa invade of oli" actions, and he does his best against pretty much the worst economic conditions since just after the 2 world wars. This however simply sets the scene for a mad raving bunch of right wing nutcases to come out of the woodwork to oppose him?

Only in America.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Copper > Adamantium
« on: December 31, 2011, 06:57:32 am »
what were they wearing on thier upper body? Breastplates dont coverarms, and gauntlets only really do lower arms. You need a mail shirt to cover upper arms.

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I think I'm doing something wrong in my version of the game. I have a 100% win record and no one has died. and I'm ten missions in!

Thats the randomness of such a game as this. TBH I am not startting each mission with an optimal ship mix (the lack of any scout is the most proplematic here) which makes it much more !!FUN!!, and am acting a bit more gung ho to get you lot in on the action. It would be quite boring if each mission was me carefully picking off stuff, instead of charging to probable death.

Just how much armor do scouts have? The last one flown seemed to die in one hit, and these missions...

The missions are quite a funny bag so far - the more orthadox "attack this" and "defend that" are saved for when we get promotions. This might take a while due to our high losses, and my cocking up with save files meaning we technically lost the shiny I won, but after getting all my pilots killed I probably deserve to have it strriped from me.

Scouts have only a tiny bit less armour than most fighters. The main problem is that as of yet I can only affors level 1 or 2 ships which at most have 2 or 3 shield segemts on the front, and 1 or 2 on the sides, with none at the rear. A light missile removes 1 or 2 segmets on the side it hits, a medium missile removes 2 or 3, and a heavy missile can remove 3 or 4. Once the shields are down, your ship components get damaged in a pseudo random manner. A ship dies when the pilot module(s) are destroyed. Our scouts have got killed by multiple missiles from behind, and a heavy one dead on (which is very likley to destroy all shields and the pilot module which is normally in the front of a ship). Most scouts have some tealth ability, which helps...

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