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Whats wrong with legendary migrants anyway?

1. Most games initially place you in the situation where your assets are small and worthless, then let you slowly advance and bulid up. Getting a legendary glassmaker in the first year from a migrant wave feels like playing a level 4 fighter and finding a +5 greatsword or getting Mobile Warfare from a goodie hut in 3200BC.

2."High Master" is a title that sounds naturally respectable. A community where half the population is a high master of some trade is an utopia, not a normal thing.

3.I see a red dwarf in a room and I assume it is an engineer. But no, he is actually one of my engravers. His title may be engraver, but he is still red and lister among engineers.

That would be wonderful. I'm still very confused. The world I generated has unusually shallow oceans (they are light blue!)

I never cared about oceans so there is a little chance I may be wrong, but I dont think they work that way. Light blue probably means they are good oceans, as opposed to evil.

Speaking as someone who played 40d a lot and took much time to move on, here are some things I found very important:
-Underground is different. Aside from new features, expect to have many more z-levels to dig in. Sometimes way, way too many, which is bad for fps. You may reduce the cavern number to 1 while still keeping all but one feature(curious underground structure).
-You will spend less time searching for good sites. I still remember the frustration of the impossible task of searching for a 2x2 embark with magma, running water, adamantine and chasm, heh. On the other hand you cant tell what kind of layer stone there will be.
-You may not like the way metals are handled. Nowadays, any part of a biome will look the same, mineral-wise. If a biome has hematite, it will have TONS of hematite, everywhere. Exploratory mining will be totally unnecessary, carving a single-colored rooms extremely unlikely.
-People may complain about military, but seriously, if you have been playing for so long you will do fine. It is not half as bad as they make it seem. Plus, you now have much more control.
-Burrows. The most important difference it made (for me) is increased ability of the player to murder specific dwarves. Pastures make it easy to murder specific pets of dwarves. Basically, you can kill anything you desire.
-Many of the nobles are now chosen by you. You lose the excuse for killing them, which may be sad for you.
-Migrants have now all sorts of skills, sometimes up to legendary. I find this annoying and depressing, you may too.
-No more superdwarves.
-Healthcare. Which is fine. Most of it is about dealing with diseases, which are a new thing too.
-Slower world generation. Medium region and 1050 years? Only if you are a masochist.

And leave 10x more crap on the ground when an ambush kills them. Which is every friggin time after year 2.

I am sorry if I am doing something wrong, but I just had to say how thrilled I am by the new stuff I see in legends.  Take Olon. Her whole life, she seemed to attract darkness and evil things, wandered the underworld, fought legendary characters and beasts, profaned a temple, became a vampire, killed hundreds, fled from place to place, then got turned into a night creature. Maybe if I had let the worldgen go on she would have become a werebeast too.
Or another frequently seen thing, a king of dwarves gets cursed to search for blood at nights. His true nature is revealed later, but being a king he gets away with it, changes the laws, becomes a dictator and rules a significant portion of the world with iron fist for centuries or milenia, safe and invincibe, like this superjerk:

Colossi, dragons, hydras, rocs all seem to die out by year 100 in my worlds. I used to solve this by giving them [DAMBLOCK:1000], by i dont know how to fix them now, help please?

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