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Quote from: Pnx on June 22, 2011, 04:45:33 pm

"Being ironic" is officially the best response ever to the question "what are you doing?"

As long as it doesn't get used too often. After all, we already have the word random.

You're worried that this will be the point where people start using irony too often?

I feel kind of weird about gender.  I absolutely hate gender rules, because I find them confining.  I want to be feminine, but I'm scared because I get bullied and see hatred whenever I slip up at all.  I'm so glad I took at least some psychology because, even though I know you're not supposed to self-analyze, it means I at least know there's a word for being so completely scared of the idea that somebody might not like you that you're afraid to talk.

The thing that makes me feel weird about gender is that, even though I don't want to be judged because I'm a guy, I know that I'm infinitely more comfortable talking to girls than I am to guys.  I don't expect girls to jump straight to insults if I accidentally mention that something seems cute to me.

I'm also not sure how I feel about my own gender.  I think I might be more happy if I'd been born a girl, but I'm not unhappy about being a guy.  Or at least, I don't think I am.  Not in the way I've seen transgender people describe it.  I just want to be allowed to be feminine.  I want it to be ok that I played with dolls with my only sister when we were little(she would have been playing alone otherwise, of course I'd join her when asked).  I don't want to be made fun of every time I make a female character in a game, which would be way more often if I didn't limit my female characters to female roles.  I wish it was acceptable for me to need a hug every once in awhile, and ask for one from one of my guy friends without it being gay.

Vector, I was actually mad at you for a little while because you seemed to be saying that sexism is only an issue that affects women because you're the ones being degraded when somebody uses feminine names as insults.  I can see why you'd be bothered by that, since it heavily implies that being a woman is bad but it really seemed like you were ignoring the fact that it's pretty much awful to have it implied that you're somehow a terrible person for not wanting to conform to gender roles, regardless of what gender you are.  I'm not any more, because it's stupid to be mad at somebody for being worried about issues that affect themselves.

I really need to get to bed instead of discussing about this, and I really need to read the rest of the thread.  Too bad I probably won't be on at all for a couple days. 

Are you sure? I don't see anything but purple blood on him.

he means Gamzee has an open face wound, and anybody who pressed their face against his for any reason could easily get his blood just all over their own face.

But it seems like killing your kismesis is the cool thing to do now.  I'm conflicted, because I don't really want any more trolls to die right now, but also I don't want Gamzee to get to live if Vriska had to die.


Edit:  Woops, totally forgot to share this story that made me actually feel kinda bad.  At work today, I saw this kid who looked like he was about 12 or 13.  He was in a wheelchair, with a rather unique hairstyle.  Specifically, his hair was cut in a short mohawk.  Pretty sure he was even wearing a black shirt and pants.  I feel like my mental response should have been "Aww, poor kid, needing a wheelchair at that age" but instead it was "Taaaaaaaavros!"

I think we all know how he dealt with Gamzee.
CG: IT'S JUST A TROLL THING, HUMANS WOULDN'T GET IT.
But I've known how he felt about Gamzee for awhile now, so it doesn't surprise me. 

Anyway, Karkat's whole dialogue here was just amazing. 
CG: OH GOD, YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT THAT?
CG: YOU KNOW WHAT, I GIVE THE FUCK UP TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOU AND HER.
EB: haha, why?
I think that probably sums up the relationship between people who like Vriska and people who don't. 

Strictly speaking, a fan character is not a self-insert by nature. And, strictly speaking, you wouldn't (ideally) be forced to read it by any real stretch of the imagination. Now, if your issue is having it somewhere where it is effectively being shoved in your face (here, for instance, and completely out in the open in a way that takes up a great deal of space), that's something I can understand. But it's their existence in general a problem, that's something slightly different that I don't quite agree with.

Just to be perfectly clear on that.

Wait, are you saying you don't agree with creating fantrolls or disagree with the idea that they're a problem simply because they exist.

Also, on the side topic of dreams and stuff.  I remember the only lucid dream I had and it sucked.  Though perhaps there's a subtle difference between realizing I suddenly have psychic powers and realizing it's a dream.

D--> Is there a reason none of you peasants use a bow
D--> I mean
D--> I can not understand why you would ignore such an e%pressive symbol of b100b100ded superiority

Oh no...  that was not what I wanted to see when I checked for updates tonight.  I guess I'm just going to have to accept that she's dead for real now, and just enjoy the story without her, like I did before she showed up.  Shouldn't be too hard, looks like something impressive is about to go down.  And I wonder what Doc's planning with that ~ath book.  Probably just a vicious beating.

I'll avoid talking about her more since I was late, and a lot of what I'd probably say has already been said(I'm just glad I liked her from the beginning).  I will add that while this isn't the outcome I wanted, it wasn't entirely unexpected.

I guess that means I need to shut up now, because I'm obsessing on it.  I want to talk about the kids, since what's going on is really exciting, but I have a feeling we'll find out what happens with Rose and with Dave and Jade soon enough.  I'm really excited about this, and the loss of one of many favorite characters won't deter me.

I'm pretty sure Vriska can't be dead because somebody quoted her and made me realize she basically said getting stabbed like a sucker can't kill a god.  And I ship VriskaxJohn because they're cute together, but JohnXRose is my favored one.

I kinda want to write an alternate timeline fanfic.  Mostly so I can have adult Terezi making out with Adult Karkat and Vriska, after tracking them down through space.  Plus, as an alternate timeline, I get to kill everybody, and I do so love tragic death.  If Vriska's actually dead, I'll be simultaneously impressed, happy, and sad.  I'm generally against fanfic, but the alternate timeline thing gives me a lot of leeway without feeling like I'm hijacking somebody else's story.  Plus, I don't write enough and it could be a fun little exercise.

Now then, I'm gonna contemplate LxLight kismesis for awhile.  I wish I'd known romantic hate could be a thing back when I watched it, so I didn't have to laugh at the hinted romantic love between them.



Gamzee is Karkat's Kismesis.