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Thenwhywhat detail could you have to post?
Answer in bold huh?
I will fully admit my reason's for voting him at the time were weak and stupid it was based off a feeling more then actual evidence I voted him because I got a bad vibe not because other people were voting him.Also the reason's I haven't voted anyone I'm having a hard time reading through all the posts people are not giving me any real vibes or feelings to help me along ultimately it comes down to that I'm having a hard time finding evidence and as such I am having a hard time forming opinions that are solid enough for me to vote someone.
Actually only one of those could be even considered a bandwagon which is snowdwarf but I voted him because as it says in the quoted post I felt he was evasive and dodging questions and that felt scummy to me.Gentlefish which I assume is the other bandwagon your talking about I actually was beaten to the punch by someone else why I was writing that post but I decided to post it anyway after adding some detail about my GE history.
The chance for anyone to be scum is 2 in 7. You always assume you're town. So, if you believe that one person in that list is scum, then what are the chances that scum avoided a bandwagon on Town? I find it more likely to avoid trying to lynch a Townie: The essence of the Trying Too Hard To Look Town scumtell. And you know, it usually IS a nulltell, but for beginners, it has outstanding merit. So, it's actually more likely that one of the three people who DIDN'T vote snow dwarf is scum.
Here's a list of whom voted for snow dwarf, in order so far as I can tell:
Gentlefish, webadict, AbstractTraitorHero, doomchild, Persus13
Time to hunt for the bandwagoniers!
DoomChild:
You've had reasoned suspicions for snow, and voted him when he offered the idea that maybe he -was- mafia. Your vote -seems- right, but if I take a page out of Hector's book () that does make me feel a little uncomfortable. Do you think it's likely that someone whom voted for snow dwarf is mafia? How do you plan on rooting them out?
I generally don't mind it when people say they're town when they're asked to provide a list of town reads (I actually loathe it, but I've seen people from n00bs to vets do it, so it's a null tell) but it's notable when they volunteer the information on their own.
Would it be fair for me to assume you read webadict as town?
I do read webadict as town. More accurately, I did "yesterday". Currently, though, he's slipping into neutral ground, not offering up much. Though considering the weekend only ended yesterday, not a lot of people have.
ATH:I'd say I've been quite reactive yes but mainly because I had no idea of any leads or what to say at all really but first I guess we can try and figure out why persus went down I mean why him exactly he didn't post much and you'd think the Mafia would want to keep that around.
Snowdwarf I felt was very newbish and I felt he was very dodgy and unsure what to do but to me it just seemed he was dodging questions and persus..well he posted barely anything I have very little information to go off right now and it seems that today will be about trying to draw slip up's more then anything.
You seem pretty quick to brush off Persus' death. Why? You're also talking about a WIFOM. They killed persus because persus was quiet but don't they want to keep quiet people around? maybe they did it to throw us off their trail but maybe they're expecting us to think that et cetera.
doomchildAnd as for the reason why I haven't jumped on the bandwagon, between being sick and wanting to be more sure before I vote again, I'm taking my time.
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I don't see how this isn't you claiming to be mafia, snow dwarf.
You understand why this looks odd, yes?
Perhaps you'd like to explain how that's taking your time?
Generally attacking someone for not posting 40 minutes after the game started is not considered great play. See here and here for a hilarious example of that.Doomchild:fillipk, why haven't you posted yet? You're plotting with your scumbuddy, aren't you?How serious was this question?
That was an RVS question. I wanted to ask something provocative, which is what I thought RVS was all about. You know, say something jarring, try to spur a reaction.Alright, good to see you're learning. Why did you consider that an RVS question?What's wrong with rereading the thread and forming new opinions?What I meant was that'd I be rereading everything and forming new opinions and as such plan what I'd post.
New opinions? Are you sure you don't mean that you needed to converse with your scumpal and come up with some dastardly scheme to bring down the rest of us townies?
Absolutely nothing. That was, again, an RVS-style accusation, intended to get a reaction. One of the things I've learned is that there's a very definite change in tone between RVS and actual scumhunting, and I failed to recognize the timing, leading to me asking broadly accusatory questions when more probing examination is called for.
The same post you subsequently voted him over.Doomchild is probably highest on my list of suspicions (This was written before snow child posted the post for which I voted him for). I've found some of his questions and scumhunting strategies questionable so far in a scummy way
EP has the highest post count, so according to the notquitethere theory he's probably town, and I have yet to see anything to contradict that possibility.
Lynching D1 is always the best way to find scum in a BM.
The other questions are RVS questions.
So, presumably, you found something(s) in snow dwarf's posts scummier than mine. What was it/were they?
doomchildI'm unvoting Gentlefish for now, because I also need to remember to consider cock-ups before conspiracy.
I'm not ready to vote snow dwarf yet, but I definitely have some pretty strong suspicion about him.
Just so you're aware, this reticence to jump on a bandwagon isn't a good thing in my book. It also makes your previous vote on Gentlefish look like a massive OMGUS. Were you only voting for him because he was voting for you?
Doomchild:fillipk, why haven't you posted yet? You're plotting with your scumbuddy, aren't you?How serious was this question?
Yeah, you're right. I am going after lurkers. I suppose a lot of that would be that it seems (after reading previous games) that lurkers tend to do way more harm than good to town, and since I want to win, we need to get them to talk, right?Voting lurkers doesn't usually work towards getting them active as they usually have non-game reasons for not posting. Voting active lurkers on the other hand can.
What's wrong with rereading the thread and forming new opinions?What I meant was that'd I be rereading everything and forming new opinions and as such plan what I'd post.
New opinions? Are you sure you don't mean that you needed to converse with your scumpal and come up with some dastardly scheme to bring down the rest of us townies?
Doomchild is probably highest on my list of suspicions (This was written before snow child posted the post for which I voted him for). I've found some of his questions and scumhunting strategies questionable so far in a scummy way
EP has the highest post count, so according to the notquitethere theory he's probably town, and I have yet to see anything to contradict that possibility.
Lynching D1 is always the best way to find scum in a BM.
The other questions are RVS questions.
To anybody who sees my not want to post my scum list scummy. I really don't understand why would you vote on me just because of the fact that I didn't post my list. The reason behind me not posting it is just because I didn't have the list down on paper cause everything in my mind was changing so fast and I thought that I won't write it down until I get some better suspicions.
I know I'm probably the biggest suspect.... but if I'm mafia (I'm not saying that I am) and I am nervous so why don't keep me for later and I guess you could try to get out of me who is the second scum (not like I know who he is) and you can always lynch me later.
Replacement Request. Stuff's going down.
But you were trying too hard
