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Really, Eloraam's dislike of add-ons isn't as irrational and petty as the old BTW incident -- or some of the sentiments I saw on the IC2 fora/etc.
I think Eloraam's attitude is one of "Don't fork it till 1.0!" She is afraid (maybe justly) that addons/forks of RP will lead to:
a) community fragmentatiion
b) rage when a RP update breaks everything

Considering that she pioneered Forge, and that there are two outstanding examples I know of where express permission for interlinking has been given (Thaumcraft 2 and Wireless Redstone Chickenbones' Edition), she doesn't seem as pigheaded as half the Minecraft modders I see out there.
(NO! MY RECOMPILED MOJANG LIBRARY! IT ILEEGEAL TO STEEL MY COPYRIGHT! NO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR U!) <--average MC modder
(I don't want forks or addons yet, it's not finished!) <--Eloraam

Yes, annoying, but a far better attitude than that of the rest.

I would imagine that having a heat system and modular buildings using heat/liquids/gasses would mean that magma forges are automatically a possibility. Though you might use a hot/cold water system to heat and cool metal in a steampunk magma forge. Water spray to quench, compressed air to cool, 1000 degree steam to heat?
Then again, direct conduction heating sounds safer and more efficient than gas-heating. What would one use for the surface though?

A pneumatics/hydraulics system would be useful for all kinds of things. Cannons, industry...

Are you planning on simulating water knock/steam hammer? The phenomena where condensation in a pipe is accelerated by pressure buildup behind it like a bullet in a gun, causing noise and possibly damage to corners at the ends of straightaways? Probably not worth simulating, and potentially very annoying, but just brainstorming.

I can see combining this with RedPower making some pretty awesome airships. Pity Redpower can't rotate things. I'd settle for 90 degree turns with estimated collision.


EDIT: Oh, I just thought of something. Are Railcraft coke ovens/blast furnaces movable by frames? If not, that might be a problem with moving multi-tile machinery: evry tile needs to be accessable. Actually, thinking about it, even if the blocks are seperate entities, a coke oven should still be movable, but needs two faces and a ring around the middle covered in frames, rendering piping complicated.

I'm imagining that you could probably just use a standard rotary shaft lifting mechanism and use a handcrank to supply a trickle of power to it.

...Probably want to upgrade to a steam hammer as soon as possible, though that would either need very-high-flow, medium-high pressure steam (direct pneumatic hammering, jackhammer style) or extreme pressure steam (lift huge weight->valves open->drop->slam!)



So am I correct in thinking that an example plate press would include:
An anvil/work table
A hammer head (this is what makes the reactions happen, but it has to be driven downward by other machines)
A drop weight
A piston
An "regulator valve" (if pressure goes above X, open until pressure drops below Y)
A T-connector

As steam pipes in it goes to the piston and valve through the T-connector. The valve's X pressure is set extremely high, and the Y is set extremely low.
The piston pushes upward, lifting the hammer and weight and jamming at the top of the stroke. The pressure redlines above X. The valve opens and all pressure is lost to the atmosphere. The weight slams the hammer head down on the work piece as pressure falls below Y, advancing the crafting by an amount based on the head velocity. The cycle continues.


EDIT: Please make industrial machinery dangerous. We want to weaponize it!

Oh man that sounds sweet. So something like water near magma/fire/furnace/other "heat generator"  boils and trys to force itself elsewhere, through pipes if necessary, pipes can be attached to pistons/valves/turbines, turbines work like Thaumcraft Thaumic generators to power machinery?

Or something even more awesome? This sounds exactly like my kind of mod.

Yes. They are a standard inventory like a chest but they output automatically.

It's not diamond. It's "battery drains marginally instead of taking damage", at least with a full suit. I don't think anything can penetrate it without draining the whole massive battery, but my knowledge may be obsolete.

The ironic thing? This is a desktop.

Yes I use five-year-old equipment. The reason: it's free. All the parts that break I replace with similarly-old parts salvaged from junked computers.
Going to University soon, will be borrowing father's backup laptop. Probably much more capable than my PC.