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General Discussion / Re: What "Is" an RPG game?
« on: February 18, 2014, 07:10:30 pm »
I think the levitation should be in there because it's a legit use of magic in the game world.
Rooky mistake number 1: Just because it fits with the mythos, does not then make it a good mechanic. You should be building your world on solid mechanics, not adding mechanics based on the world.
The developer for the dungeons claimed he didn't take flying into account while designing the dungeons, so adding in flying just because 'Well you can shoot a fireball!' dosn't make up for this.

I think this kind of thing is called railroading and it's not much liked.
And yet the Elder scrolls games are very, very popular. The formula is very well liked by the general public. I think what you mean is you don't like it, and that is fine! You are allowed to not like things, but at the same time others are allowed to enjoy these things.
Look at all the games out there with very linear narrative, is it really fair to say that riding the rails is disliked? I don't think so. I think people like to be shown these things, and being limited in some way. While many people say they want the all powerful god mode stuff like flying and ultimate weapons and all that bullshit, you find that games that fall for this trap get somewhat bland very quickly.

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General Discussion / Re: What "Is" an RPG game?
« on: February 18, 2014, 06:18:46 pm »
No, designing a game in a way that players will experience all that it has to offer is not just dancing around a devs feelings. Pretty much the definition of game development is making choices to shape the experience of a player. You have to accept that it is their sandbox, not yours, you are just playing in it. They are going to do what ever it takes to make sure you have fun in there, but at the end of the day the very premise is that they set the rules.

The dungeon is there to be explored, every nook and cranny. The monsters are there to be beaten to death in what ever way you best see fit. You remove flying, because it impairs the first, but you don't remove weapons because it complements the second.


As for this argument that it is a sandbox game and therefor non-linear, but it is linear therefor bad, the solution is simple! Stop thinking of it as a sandbox game! If in your mind all linearity is intrinsically negative to sandboxes, then the elder scrolls games aren't sandbox games. If you want to tell me all swans are white, when I find a black swan don't try and tell me I'm blind.

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General Discussion / Re: What "Is" an RPG game?
« on: February 18, 2014, 05:26:12 pm »
But from a dev perspective, that story about the Duke who needs you to put his pants on him is also a story, and it is a story with a reasonable risk to reward structure, and difficulty curve, and dedicated assets, and all sorts of good stuff to provide a very rich experience. It is something they worked hard on and would like you to experience, and a lot of players would be annoyed if it turns out they missed ut on that by accident.
I agree that there is a place for a much more organic gametype than these linear stories using RPG elements to stitch them together, but that is exactly what some people like. You are entitled to not like a game that doesn't do things the way you like, but that doesn't make it wrong or bad. I don't think telling people to jump ship over to books or movies and just forget about games because the kind of aspects they like are different from what you like is the right way to go.

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General Discussion / Re: What "Is" an RPG game?
« on: February 18, 2014, 06:35:18 am »
I will point out that character, not just a collection of numbers, but actual character and story are not separate entities. Your character is part of the story, so if you get to define your character, you get to define a part of the story, and a good story should react to that in some way, even if the end is the same... Then again "what is an RPG" and "what is a good RPG" are not the same question. We could talk all day about what is and is not an RPG without ever touching on what makes one good.

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General Discussion / Re: Reudh's Hilarious Australasian politics thread!
« on: February 18, 2014, 01:16:19 am »
Morrison giving an interview now... This should be good.
EDIT: Ok, so important factors.
1. Morrison refuses to rule out that people came into the compound, he keeps saying he has conflicting reports.
2. He refuses to give information on who actually shot that one guy, I personally believe his claim that he doesn't know yet.
3. Investigations are being shoveled onto the PNG police rather than done by us, so you know, make of that what you will...


Early reports coming in of another round of violence for the night. Also a PNG reporter claiming that Australian staff were guarding the local hospital, keeping reporters from talking to doctors who were treating wounds from machetes. Seems any current violence is either not real, too unsubstantiated or very recent, as I'm having trouble finding other sources.

Ok, you have to be shitting me. Seriously, what the fuck is even going on in the department of immigration? Tens of thousands of refugees details were made public accidentally, putting their lives, and the lives of their family at risk. You have to be fucking with me.

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General Discussion / Re: What "Is" an RPG game?
« on: February 18, 2014, 12:20:23 am »
I think the term is a little misleading. In the vast majority of games you play the role of a character, so in name alone most games are 'RPGs', but there is more to it.
I would say any real RPG lets you define your character. It lets you choose what sort of abilities and attributes they will have. For for example, if I am playing an Elder Scrolls game, I choose what weapon types I want to use, what armor will suit me, what levels I want to raise. I would also say one of the important qualifiers is that your choices are exclusive. You can't have it all. You need to choose between getting more health or more mana, for example, and make peace with this choice. This is a bit of a controversial definition, as it would mean like The Legend of Zelda series is not, in fact, a true RPG, but I'm ok with that.

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Other Games / Re: Hearthstone - Online Warcraft TCG in Open Beta
« on: February 17, 2014, 07:23:49 pm »
So I play this too, now, apparently. Though not very well.
First mistake every new player makes: This is not a 'who ever has more health is winning' game, this is a 'who ever has more cards in hand/minions on the board/unused key cards' is winning game. Go from there... Or watch Trump play, I do.

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General Discussion / Re: Reudh's Hilarious Australasian politics thread!
« on: February 17, 2014, 06:49:31 pm »
Consecutive night of unrest on Manus island. 1 dead, 77 injured.
Early reports indicate that the locals instigated this attack against the asylum seekers, most likely out of retaliation and fear after the protests the night before. You know I would like to say I'm shocked, but for fuck sake anybody with the eyes to see it saw something like this coming from the moment Rudd reopened the camp. If you are surprised, it is because you are uninformed on the issue.


EDIT: In other news, the High Court has ruled the WA senate election void. It is still going over all the details and precedents before it will rule if a revote is required or not, but it looks very, very likely at this point. Save us WA, save us alllllll!!!!

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it basically is the representative body of people formed by elections
UK house of lords disagrees.

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General Discussion / Re: Reudh's Hilarious Australasian politics thread!
« on: February 17, 2014, 04:07:39 am »
Plenty of time for cation and indifference when I'm old... Until then, I will continue to actually give a damn about the world I live in.

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Peer pressure! Peer pressure! Peer pressure!
But seriously Tiruin, you are totally justified in feeling uncomfortable posting a photo on the internet. Heck I would probably avoid it myself were I a wiser man. But if you do feel like it, don't think we will think less of you or anything. Sometimes opening up a little is a good feeling.

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General Discussion / Re: Reudh's Hilarious Australasian politics thread!
« on: February 17, 2014, 01:28:28 am »
Oh Mr Abbott... One day you will die, and I will drink a toast to your corpse, but until then you continue to destroy the world I will inherit, you sick fuck.
Australias renewable energy target is under attack. Riots in the Manus Island camp after revelations there is literally no plan for what will happen to anybody there. Murdoch laughing all the way to the bank.

Fuck this planet, going to Saturn.

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So the age old question: What if, instead of Shigeru Miyamoto, Satoru Okada had designed Super Mario Bros? Well the answer is Extra Mario Bros... Holy crap this romHack is amazing.

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