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I very much prefer alpacas for milking and shearing. Peafowls for eggs. Dogs for leather industry.

As gray langurs love to invade my fortress, I prefer them for gelding and for leather industry now too.

Dwarven civilizations interact with goblin civilizations. Sometimes in such a way that you end up with goblins making up the vast majority of your civilization's nobility. Sometimes in such ways that the goblin civilization seems to consist mostly of dwarves.

I one time had a world where both happened, which was looking rather odd in the legends mode of that world.


Anyway, when such intermingling happens, dwarves and goblins often adopt the name pattern of the other species. An "Urist Demonclaw" wouldn't surprise me under such circumstances.

Ugh. Took him a few years, but then he started nibbling on my dorfs. Or at least I think he did - when the vampire left, one of my dorfs was suddenly suffering from a "major blood loss" and some fainting for a while.

I took matters in my hands with a diplomat trap and a drawbridge.


Ehm. Next summer, they'll send humanite instead of a caravan?

Yes, she must have some high social skills. Legends mode says that she had to flee from her home town about a dozen times, but she always returned there quite quickly and got back into society flawlessly.

Only a dozen times discovered while murdering about 700 humans of that town though! Quite artful.


Locking her and her guards up, eh? I need to look into that. Preferably before she gets hungry while visiting my fortress. Hrm.

I have a backup of this world from before I started and checked it out. No, the tower is on the eastern part of the small island, I am on the right side of the island. It's a very prolific (hah) tower with 471 books or something though.

The goblin town is in the middle between tower and my fortress; the hills where all the vampires fled to are in the southern east of the island. Haven't seen them yet at least, but maybe they only migrate into fortresses with more inhabitants.


My own civilization was basically destroyed but some dunderhead from elsewhere (Damsto Dabbax AKA Damsto Autumnightmare, a truely dwarven name!) declared herself queen in the year 500. Oh dear, that freak queen (former administrator of  The Scraped Plague, by the way) is obsessed with her own mortality and thinks about how to extend her own life for a couple of years now.

Ah yes. Goblins destroyed my dwarven civilization, The Ring of Cacti, in 61 (439 years before the foundation of my fortress). They renamed it to The Scraped Plague and put initially a goblin in charge. However, the way goblin groups are... administrators changed frequently, and in the end, they apparently declared a bunch of goblins as their enemies. Anyway, Damsto apparently thought that we're not wiped out. Huzzah.

Her obsession with mortality aside, I see no obvious connection to all these zombies in the legends mode yet.

Except that the main fortress of the Ring of Cacti, Letterstrife, is apparently filled with goblins who live there and do their yearly murder events. Uhm. The other nobles of my civi have more normal dorf names.

Odd history. lol.

Something must have changed then, originally an unskilled grower could fail to grow anything, resulting in a reduction in crops.  I've always embarked with a grower, however, so *shrugs*

Well, no. Okay, I only know DF since it went 3d, so I can't speak of the very early versions of DF. But I never embarked with a grower and I never had a farmer fail the planting, thus diminishing my seeds.

I do run into seed issues with some aboveground plants in 40.19 (Alfalfa and Onions were difficult, IIRC), but that's probably because the wildlife grown as crop produces something that can only be cooked instead of eaten raw or brewed. Of the more normal crops, Quarry Bushes can be a bit low on seeds sometimes, if the farmer's workshop got stuck too long doing other things than processing them to bags.

Nope. That won't work if the couple is stuck in the "lover" state and simply refuses to move on to breeding. I just burrowed both "lover" couples for 2 seasons somewhere and they just would not move on. They had nothing else to do but to feel tenderness about having spoken to a lover and to admire a fine statue and table, but nope. Nothing. Stuck.

Used Putnam's invitrofertilization script to fix that issue for now. *grmbl*

Hm... so I was so used to not being attacked at all anymore that I became rather careless concerning my fortress defense.

Suddenly, a new fortress (2 years old) with a grand population of 10, no military, traps, magma access, ores, armors or weapons to speak of, got visited by a necromancer and his 3 zombie friends. I did the only sensible thing: Pulled the drawbridge, prayed that they won't climb over the 1 z-level high grand walls, and placed walls in the access points just in case that they do climb over the 1 z-level high grand walls.

So, now I am walled in and produce some cotton clothes, yak cheese roasts, mill some wheat and work slowly on the magma access and tree farm projects. Meanwhile, the zombies harass or rather wipe out the surface dwelling wild animals.

The "u"nit menu claims that Vabok Alathmurder has already left the map, but his 3 zombie pets are still out and about.

Will they go away on their own or am I now doomed to sit there with my 10 dwarves until I trained some of them up until I think I am ready to kill the rotting fiends?

Not that I mind. I think caravans provide too many goods for a fortress to remain interesting anyway. A breeding pair of immigrants would be nice though, as the 10 of mine seem reluctant about getting at it once again.