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Hey, thanks. I guess I should've looked at the files better instead of assuming all I needed was src heh. All the pdcurses stuff actually seems to be included - It comes with the .dll under workspaces and the other two under src\pdcurses.

It seems to be working fine. It "converted" game.sln and game.vcproj since I have a newer version with a "warning" on the game.vcproj, but I can't seem to figure out how to get it to tell me what the warning was.

I also noticed a few things with compiling. First the file size of compiling it without changing anything came out to be larger, 1,691,648 bytes instead of 1,662,976 bytes. Is that just due to the version difference? Second I got 2 "warnings" during compile:
c:\lcs\src\lcsio.cpp(130) : warning C4715: 'LCSInitArtDir' : not all control paths return a value
and
..\src\daily\daily.cpp(740) : warning C4309: '=' : truncation of constant value

Are these anything to worry about? The game seems to be running fine, but I'm not sure if I did something wrong or not.

For reference, heres the version info of my Visual C++ install
Microsoft Visual Studio 2008
Version 9.0.21022.8 RTM
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 3.5

Installed Edition: VC Express

Microsoft Visual C++ 2008

Thanks again for the help.

I don't think he COUNTS as the king though, does he?

As in, your civ becomes the mountainhome, etc etc.

Last I checked you're still just a crappy lil fortress and not the mountainhome when "peasant king" arrives.

Ah, yes, thats what it is. I didn't even realise you could do that. Learn something new every day

As I said, I'm certainly no programmer - I just look at the code and try to figure out what it means haha. The only experience I have is from random bits of game modding that I've done over the years. One of these days I'll sit down and actually learn a language instead of fiddling around with 20 different ones for 20 different games.

The only two places armorpenetration is mentioned in the fight.ccp file is in the aforementioned mod2 int and:

 1968 void damagemod(creaturest &t,char &damtype,int &damamount,
 1969                char hitlocation,char armorpenetration,int mod)

From my limited coding experience this looks like it's just listing the stuff to be used in the function. Is it somehow setting the value of armorpenetration? If not I don't think it's doing anything either

I equipped my elite squad with heavy armor (prot7) and yet am being utterly devastated at almost every shot aimed at my head or chest, and this led me to look up how armor works in the source (in the fight.ccp file), and this bit caught my attention:


 2039    int mod2=prot+LCSrandom(prot+1)-armorpenetration;
 2040    if(mod2<0)mod+=mod2;

Now, I'm no programmer so correct me if I'm wrong, but from the second line (adding mod2 to mod if it is less than 0?) it only uses negative values of mod2. Yet the first line seems to only produce negative numbers when the armor's prot value is lower than the armor penetration. (adding prot + random number between 0 and prot+1 and then subtracting armorpenetration). Wouldn't this make it so that armor does absolutely nothing?

Also, I couldn't find armorpenetration anywhere else in the file, did you mean to use armorpiercing? Or I guess it could be something defined in another source file.

Just bringing this up because I tested a SWAT raid on my place both with and without the heavy armor several times each to make sure, waiting and letting the teams of SWAT shoot me and and watching for torso/head hits, and strangely I fared better without armor, although I guess it could be strange luck. It seemed like with armor my guys dropped dead nearly every time they got a bad hit in the head or chest, but going naked they managed to shrug off quite a few head/torso shots, even triple assault rifle shots to the head.

I think that's what it is - I too killed someone during interrogation and wound up with a money item that crashed the game. I guess when I don't want someone I'll just have to let them escape and take the kidnapping charge or recruit them and have them suicide raid the police station.

So you're on a map without magma?

Magma buildings enable by themselves as long as you discover magma properly.

Like I said, the only reason you'd need it is if

A: You don't have magma on map and are hacking it in.
B: You bugged your map by using reveal.

Both of which are easily solveable, either find a map with magma (easily done with the new site finder) or load a game back before you used reveal and dig up the magma before you reveal the map.

I guess hacking magma into every map is convenient, but it's not really necessary.

As far as magma is concerned, I'm the same way - I always find a site with it and can't stand going without it, even if all I'm doing with it is melting the goblin's iron.

In the newer versions you can usually get a mason to build from outside fine by suspending the construction and restarting it.

Also, it could be coincidence that they finally obey me after I do it, but I find setting the side I don't want to restricted seems to help.