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The realistic casualties code in Brytenwalda is funny. It does things so strange.

Effectively what it does is this:

IF $g_realistic_casualties is 1 (OFF) it takes 1/3 of the enemy troops killed and sets them as wounded in the total enemy casualties instead so you get them as prisoners if you win the fight. If you lose the fight the enemies are still dead, since it only healed them in the casualty list that's used for prisoners.

IF $g_realistic_casualties is 0 (ON) it takes 1/3 of ALL troops killed, including your own, and tries to heal equivalent troops in the enemy casualties. So if I have 75 aillts killed in my own party and the enemy has 25 killed aillts in their party, their 25 aillts will be miraculously revived as a prisoner just because my guys died. I guess my surgeons are taking body parts from my guys to patch up the enemy troops and keep them as prisoners.

I was wondering why I got so many prisoners when fighting other Britons with my Briton troops, and so much less when fighting other factions.


Stuff like this is why I like digging into other people's code. Coding mistakes can be so entertaining.

Quote from: Paul on November 22, 2012, 02:28:58 am

So 480 certs and I'd have a good one. Maybe another 100 for the compensator too... 580. Heh, maybe in a couple months? lol

Hmmm??? Even without the bonus EXP I have been getting due to Alpha and stuff...
Thats like maybe... 3 - 6 days of just taking bases...
Just made like 30 or more in the last half hour of the server today just from cleaning up Aremish for a full NC Control...

I haven't been playing that much, though. Since release I've gained about 50 certs, most of which I spent on other little things like nanoweave armor. At my current rate of playing and saving extra certs it will probably take a month or so

Heh, I've been modding Brytenwalda so much, maybe I should release a fix pack of my own. So far I've fixed the loot wagon issue, fixed the issues with the realistic casualties system, modified the random scenarios and the map so the battle maps aren't so dang hilly, fixed the castle income thing being super low (maybe intended by them, but whats the point of a castle that pays you 200 and costs you 1000+ in troop wages).

The realistic casualties system is basically a free prisoner system as it stands. It didn't actually save troops, it just added them to prisoner lists if you won. If you lost or retreated they were still dead. I modified it so that it keeps them in the enemy party, so if you kill 150 guys 50 of em won't be reported as dead and will either come up as prisoners if you win or remain in the enemy party as wounded if you lose.

I might put together a mod of their mod with all my little changes. Thinking of rebalancing their weapons a bit, right now axes are OMG AWESOME and swords are meh. To the point that the low tier troops with hand axes kick the asses of the higher tier troops with swords and armor. Thats how my armies of low tier Bonheddwr troops are mopping the floor with top tier Briton troops - the awesome power of hand axes. I even had a squad of follower women wreck a group of elite Briton Campgwyr with their awesome handaxeness.

Checked out the brytenwalda mod and it looks epic, but I can't figure out how to install it. The only guide says to write a run command or something. I am clueless as to how to get this to work. Any help?

I just double clicked their installer and it came up with buttons, one of them was install. I seem to recall that launching an installer. I forget. I personally prefer a simple zip file, but I guess they wanted to fancy it up.

The 1.153 version is the latest in terms of module systems, 1.154 was just an update to make it compatible with the Napoleonic Wars DLC. All the 1.153 mods should work in 1.154, unless the devs really messed up (especially since the 1.153 module system is the only one available!). I haven't had any problems with the 1.153 mods on 1.154.

Just got back into playing this in the Brytenwalda mod.

The siege system they have in that one is pretty fun. I just completed a three week siege of Caer Maunguid. They only had food for a week when I started (which was why I thought sieging them was a good idea, heh) so I kept them without food for about two weeks.

I started with 250 men, mostly Bonheddwyr (the tier 2 Briton troops). My ally (I was Marshal, with the faction leader following me around) had 350 men. The enemy city had about 760 men - 460 in the city itself and their faction leader was inside with about 300. So I was outnumbered, 600 to 760. I had my personal engineering skill at 7, so stuff wasn't too hard to build. I started with setting up a circumvallation, then built sanitation. After that was done I just camped out. The first week was mostly uneventful, I lost 20 men to an attack while building the circumvallation but not too bad. Then as soon as they ran out of food they made a desperate sally against me, but I formed my troops into a thick line and managed to wipe them out without too many losses.

After that little fight, I kept waiting day after day. It threw an event at me every day or two, asking to choose things - a few let me pay money to help my men's morale, some were choices that mostly affected honor. After the second week the enemy women, children, and old men abandoned the city and wandered out to the circumvallation begging for food - I paid 400 to get them some food for an honor boost, although it hurt morale (not sure why, my men must be cruel). I had a few more sallies by the defender, but I was still going pretty strong.

The third week they sallied a few more times and hit me pretty hard since now they had more elite troops coming out (early sallies seemed to be mostly lower tier like mine, so it was more evenly matched - these were the heavier infantry and they hurt), leaving with me down to 60 men and my allies down to 200. The enemy side was still showing 500 defenders, so I was getting a bit worried. Then on the 20th day an enemy lord party of 100 came up and got in a battle with my ally, leaving me with a mere 60 men (who were now all tier 3 and 4 from the experience of all the fights). against the 500 defenders in the city. On the dawn of the 21st day they sallied out and attacked again, at which point I figured I was doomed - 60 vs 500? But the enemy only had 40. 500 men in the city, but the starvation had left a mere 40 able to fight.

I charged with my men, and together we wiped them out - including the enemy lord. After that little fight I captured the enemy lord, and was able to take as many prisoners as I could hold (which wasn't many, since my party size had shrunk so much - but I got all the expensive ones).

So that's how I got credit for single handedly capturing 500 men with a party of 60. I must have gained 150 renown from all the victories during the sallies. My faction leader gave me the city too.

The first few caravans to arrive must have made a killing too due to all the price hikes during the siege. Just the tariffs are going to give me 15,000 at the end of the week.

Unless it has changed since the last time I tried stealth, using active sensors may give away your position but it does not allow them to lock onto you with weapons. So you could fly in, activate sensors, and fire off missiles. Even if their missiles outrange yours, they can't fire them at you unless they get their own active sensor contact on you. The EM from your sensors lets them see where you are and move toward you, but as long as you're around the same speed or faster than them you can keep out of their range and fire away then deactivate sensors and be undetectable again (assuming they aren't spotting your thermal). At which point the AI tends to go to your last known location to look for you, but if you move away they'll never find you.

You could even have missiles with their own sensors and just fire at where their EM or thermal contacts are and let them lock onto their targets once they get there. In that case you would never need to activate any sensors, so they'd never even see your ship at all. In one game I had a JP make a new link (created after all their own JPs were explored, so they never knew it was there) to an NPR system. I was able to send stealth ships in with low thermals and a small cross section and harass them with impunity, nuking their ships without them ever seeing where the missiles were coming from.

Just don't get so close that you move into their missile sensor range, since those will see you no matter how small your ship's cross section is.

You could, but where's the fun in that? Working your way up the ranks with improvised ships is half the fun.