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Not only is it closer, but you hit "c" with your pointer finger, the only finger that you don't use for the common movement keys.

but you hit "c" with your pointer finger, the only finger that you don't use for the common movement keys.

pointer finger, don't use for the common movement keys.

wut

I use my pointer, middle, and ring finger for the movement keys.  Tried your way, and it puts my hand at a weird angle.  Ughh.

Spoiler: HEY GUYS (click to show/hide)

youre BEING Sumom ned adn shti

SBaHJ SPESS edition?

So, has anyone actually dished $90 bucks on this? I mean, it looks great, and the idea is incredibly ambitious, I could see it making some waves if ever finished. But that's a huge risk to take for a game that's not even close to finished yet.

I spent a total of $70, by backing $50 during the Kickstarter and then upgrading to the Galactic edition (the equivalent of the one on Steam) which was a bit of a loophole in the pricing, but I'm going to say that as a fan of Supreme Commander, and the Total Annihilation remakes in SpringRTS, it was definitely worth my money, and I do not see it not getting finished.

I've watched the dev liveblogs since the Kickstarter, and they've made a huge amount of progress from the start, as they build their own modular engine from scratch for this, as well as various tools for it, like the planet generator.  It went from literally nothing, to the quite playable, albeit buggy and not full-featured alpha.  The game is updated fairly quickly as well, though we've been warned we may find that sometimes there may be a couple weeks between patches when they have the game in such a state that they will start adding in more of the major features, such as only being able to place metal extractors on metal points, the orbital layer, and interplanetary combat.

They've also encouraged modders thoroughly, which at least for me, makes paying $90, let alone $70 absolutely worth it.  There were mods being made within a day of the release, and even I was messing around trying to enable the production of the few orbital units available in the game.  There are already plans for returns of some of the mods from SupCom, such as LABwars.

So yeah, definitely worth the price, simply because the level of mod support, and the amount of dev interaction with the community is nearly unseen in the gaming world.  The only other place with this level of interaction that I've seen is around Stonehearth.

Ouya Crashes E3, Organizers Call Cops
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2420328,00.asp

Favorite bit: "In retaliation, the ESA - which runs E3 - rented space directly in front of Ouya and parked huge trailers that blocked views of the Ouya setup."

Stop right there criminal scum!

I felt the Xbox lineup was solid as well.  And given the fact that I also don't like buying used games (due to a lot of issues with scratched discs from gamestop, and then when I was older, understanding that the makers of the game don't get any money from the purchase as well), and I don't see Microsoft actually spying on us as a likely case, because I cannot see how it would be profitable sorting through all that video or audio feed.  Or, even with a program to do it, sorting through all the false positives for what they are looking for.

And now that the PS4 has a paid premium model, there's no reason for me to try to get used to the fact that I don't find the Playstation controllers comfortable (I never have, way back to playing racing games with my best friend on his PS1 back in elementary school. It's the sticks being at the same horizontal level - never felt comfortable).

That, and I'm almost convinced to go back to consoles for Battlefield 4.  As long as they don't announce that PC can support 128 player games or something, there's no reason for me to play it on PC, where I can't play with the input method I'm most comfortable with.

Also, being able to control TV through the Xbox would be quite convenient, and probably a lot faster than the sluggishness of the Comcast controller (seriously, half the time you can't tell if you pushed the button down enough!).

Also, I realized I like parentheticals waaaaaaaay way too much.

EDIT: Also, the PS4 looks like it may have trouble with cooling. Probably not, but the pictures I saw didn't show much vent space except for the back, and it seemed like a pretty thin design.

Quote from: UltraValican on June 10, 2013, 04:24:47 pm

Witcher 3 (Mermaid fucking edition)

Is that literally? (i wouldn't be surprised)

There is a rather scantily clad mermaid.  The fucking thereof is not yet confirmed.

Quote from: Mistercheif on June 07, 2013, 03:38:55 am

Quote from: Xbox Wire

-Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

My emphasis.

First thought is: surely having resale requirements (and a one-sale-only limit) completely goes against the First-sale Doctrine?  Given the European Court of Justice already ruled that First-sale Doctrine still applies even for digital-only copies, I can't see limiting the selling rights for physical (disc) copies holding up legally - in the EU at least, surely?

It seems to me that that quote only applies to giving the game to others, as opposed to selling it.  And I'm afraid I don't really enough about the case to be able to comment - I didn't really take much notice of it as I generally dislike getting a game with the intention of reselling it later, and I generally by new games when their on sale as opposed to used, after far too much bad luck with getting scratched used games.

Quote from: Leonon on June 09, 2013, 08:19:14 pm

Quote from: nenjin on June 06, 2013, 08:04:10 pm

Used PC game sales were once a thing but the industry killed that shit pretty quickly, and that's been the reality since I was a kid. (Instead it has piracy, yay.)

Quote from: OzyTheSage on June 06, 2013, 08:23:46 pm

If a person who would have bought a new copy buys a used copy instead, then the publishers/devs don't get any profit from it, that's basically the big deal here.

Yeah, they aren't hurting for money, but that's not the issue.

This is why I like the no used game thing. For the publishers and developers used games are financially the same as piracy, with the resellers being the only ones who profit. If you don't want to pay for a new game you can just pirate it and bypass the used games market while hardly affecting the rest of the games industry.

It seems that Microsoft is actively herding consumers away from used games and towards piracy.

Then it'll be 'OMG! PIRATZ AR EVULZ! WE MUST AD SHITTY DRM TO STOP THIS SELF INFLICTED PROBLEM!'

Except piracy on consoles is not as much of a problem, especially since (from what I've seen, please correct me if I'm wrong) piracy generally requires modification of the console, which could easily be detected if you need to connect to the internet once every 24 hours.  And though I'm sure it would be possible to get around that as well, I'd think the people willing to do that sort of modification aren't necessarily in Microsoft's target demographic, as they would not be looking for online play if they are using Xbones modified to play pirated games and avoid the online check.