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So it seem they've either been lying to us about how the game licensing worked, or more likely, they changed their plans after seeing the backlash.

Here are the most relevant bullets:

-Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games.  Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.
-Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games.  You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.
-Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

I'm not an Xbox One hater, and I actually intend on buying one, but I enjoy reading all of your discussion nonetheless.

EDIT: And they still haven't released any updates on the required check-in every 24 hours.  I wouldn't be surprised if that changes as well.

EDIT2: Kinect Privacy Concerns! Now with extra pause!

You are in control of what Kinect can see and hear: By design, you will determine how responsive and personalized your Xbox One is to you and your family during setup. The system will navigate you through key privacy options, like automatic or manual sign in, privacy settings, and clear notifications about how data is used. When Xbox One is on and you’re simply having a conversation in your living room, your conversation is not being recorded or uploaded.

You are in control of when Kinect sensing is On, Off or Paused: If you don’t want the Kinect sensor on while playing games or enjoying your entertainment, you can pause Kinect. To turn off your Xbox One, just say “Xbox Off.” When the system is off, it’s only listening for the single voice command -- “Xbox On,” and you can even turn that feature off too. Some apps and games may require Kinect functionality to operate, so you’ll need to turn it back on for these experiences.

You are in control of your personal data: You can play games or enjoy applications that use data, such as videos, photos, facial expressions, heart rate and more, but this data will not leave your Xbox One without your explicit permission. Here are a few examples of potential future scenarios:
A fitness game could measure heart rate data to provide you with improved feedback on your workout, allow you to track your progress, or even measure calories burned.
A card game could allow you to bluff your virtual opponent using your facial expressions.

You can use other inputs to control your games, TV and entertainment experiences: While it’s faster to find what you’re looking for using your voice and gesture commands with Kinect, you can use a controller, your remote controls or your smart devices instead. And you can use all of these devices when Kinect is paused.
We’ll have more information available as we get closer to product availability later this year.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

That being said, who knows what will be in the Xbox Live contract, so you may be forced to give your explicit permission anyway.

Personally, I don't care if they spy on me, my gaming area at home is in my living room, with its large bay windows facing the street.  So even without a kinect, it's not exactly private.

It's probably spending extra time to look for the missing pieces that were once there, but are now gone.

Unless you started a new game.

anyway: started a new playthrough this last week, got turned into a vampire (first playthrough with DLC...)

Needed to feed, broke into a house, found a sleeping child, drank his blood, and reverse pickpocketed a gold coin.

Now, that is the only way I feed; find a sleeping child, remove some blood, deposit coin.

I'm like the Tooth Fairy.

I guess I'll try starting a new playthrough then.  If that fixes it, I'll go through the hassle of making a clean save.

neat game.
but just neat.
cant see myself playing this more then twice.
+ my computer wont be able run it.

I'm not so sure about that.  In 2009 it placed second for "Best Optimized for Intel Graphics."  So it was playable with 2009 intel integrated graphics.  And Intel's IGs aren't that good now (or at least pre-Haswell), and they've made a lot of progress in graphics power since 2009.

That being said, it doesn't look like my kind of game either, but I would love to see that engine used for a battlefield like game.  That terrain deformation + tanks + explosions = ERMEHGERD.  And maybe that water + boats = ERMEHGERD too...

Hmmm ok buy a disk once and never use it again.... What's the point of buying the disk in the first place and not just downloading the game.

Also sounds like ubi soft on lots and lots of steroids, if Xbox gets away with such horrific DRM how long till Sony think that's a good idea as well for PS4 and then consoles will forever be stuck like that.

This year ( or what ever year this is meant to be released ) marks a death for console gaming.

EDIT:
Also I have been wondering say your new Xbox one breaks ( because MS can't build hardware for shit ) and it's not connected to the Internet or anything would that not mean you would have to pay for all your games again on the replacement Xbox ?

I expect it would probably be just transferring your xbox live account to the new xbox.

I've got a voucher for Shogun 2 as well. First person to from here to friend me on steam and send me a message saying you're friending me for the voucher gets it!

Quote from: Ultimuh on April 14, 2013, 08:04:20 am

The conspiracy unfolds.
If this have been seen before, please ignore.

Saw title, clicked "x" button faster than I ever had in my life.

Hey! That was informative and amusing! It was infomusing!

Quote from: Knirisk on March 30, 2013, 08:22:16 pm

Quote from: Kaitol on March 30, 2013, 08:16:18 pm

Okay, next time, instead of going space walking to find a teleporter to teleport onto the bridge, I'll just spawn an emag. Christ. Can never do anything original or someone will just free the singularity and all your objectives will be eaten and they'll call the shuttle.

Also. PLEASE STOP OVERRIDING THE SHUTTLE LAUNCH. Unless there's a clear and immediate threat, don't do that shit. I don't care if the singularity is free, unless its moving towards the shuttle, don't speed it up. Because I was literally steps from a pod after frantically building a teleporter and apc to get back before it left.

I was Karrina. And I was gonna get my objective with no items then spawn a syndicate balloon and lol all alone on a pod. *madface*

Besides, didn't it skip from 2 authorizations needed to 10 seconds remaining? That puts in my mind that an emag did it, so I was thinking a traitor sped it up. Unless somehow my client missed the 1 authorizations necessary.

That was probably it then, the CE had some time to mess around with the panel when I wasn't looking most likely. Damn though, that got intense when the other traitor tried to kill the CE. I tried to stun him, but then one of the doctors attacked me for destroying his precious violin. So I had to beat off him, and the traitor who had a fucking lightsaber. I'm really surprised I didn't die.

No, I emagged it as I was sitting in the cockpit after the cyborg and I started everybody fighting by trying to kill you and attacking the Captain.

And I'm not surprised you survived.  I am pretty much the opposite of robust.

Also, traitor RD two rounds in a row.  Both times, a cyborg comes to me asking for a battery upgrade. 

I'm in.  Good luck to everyone!

I'm out, I gave in and bought it :-)  Better odds for the rest of you now!