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then there's the one in the American Midwest where Asian Carp are an invasive speciesWait, what.
Classy. I guess getting goatse'd by Armok isn't as bad as it sounds...The first one looks like a... uh...
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I don't know, I don't really -get- minecraft. Toady's spent years making this great game from the bottom up, and some guy takes a bit of open source code, enhances it moderately to make it more dwarf-fortress esque, charges for it, makes millions, and toady is still...well, toady, ordinary guy. (though possible dwarf in disguise).
I mean, I tried out minecraft, but I just got so bored. I just don't understand the point of it. There's no depth to the world and not really all that much to build, at least compared to what I'm used to. I really just don't understand it. And I feel so bad for toady, because I feel that a number of the features are clear knock-offs/nods to DF.
I can see how they'd have different points though; DF basically is trying to be a fantasy world simulator, while minecraft, at heart, is trying to let people make pretty things. And people do make pretty things in DF, but its so much more. But having all that 'much more' sacrifices the graphics.
So I'm ambivalent. I'm happy for the minecraft players, happy they are happy, but I love DF more. The only thing that makes me sad is for toady, because I really feel the quality of DF in terms of the code and the work done into it exceeds minecraft, but toady isn't a millionare, while minecraft's maker has made 3.5 million off of it as of this month.
Better yet, introduce it to adventure mode. It'll work great, this program seems to be even more mentally unstable than most DF players!Somebody needs to play D&D with it. User is the GM and Jab is the player. Try as hard as you can to translate jab's spouting into something it's char does.
THIS.
Obviously the people launching DDoS attacks are in the minority, but trolls will drown out the rest even when they are far outnumbered. Of course, I think they might actually be in the majority...
True, it isn't exactly mainstream, but the community's troubles seem to stem from that whole "gamer entitlement" thing. People pay $13 for a game in the alpha stage, then go on a self-important tirade when things don't work right away. The game's accessibility (while not a bad thing in itself,) doesn't help much with filtering out the very type of immature morons that plague their forums.
I thought those jerks that launched a DDOS attacks on his site because they wanted more updated were some weird minority. Guess not.
For the record I don't hate Mincecraft. I just wish Dwarf Fortress got some more attention, since I think a lot of people would give this game a chance if they really knew about all the awesome things you could do in it. Plus the website I frequent is stuck in a Minecraft obsession phase, which to be honest is kind of annoying.
Clearly there's a lot of exaggeration, but the MC forums have an unusually high concentration of trolls, and the fanbase as a whole seems to be completely unpleasable and unreasonable. They do nothing but bitch about the tiniest of things.Personally, I think it's a bad idea even mentioning DF on the Minecraft forums. Not because I think it will start a flame war, but because the MC community really aren't the brand of people whose attention we should be bringing our forum to.Also, IMO, both are good, but Minecraft is almost in its beta, and dwarf fortress has been around for like 4-5 years, and is still in alpha...
I think the difference between beta and alpha in Minecraft will be completely negligible. The differences will just be in name. And Notch has been claiming the development has been rapidly nearing beta for months now so I don't think it's almost.
Yeah, Dwarf Fortress wins considering it has a 3 year lead on Minecraft in content. It's a really unfair comparison.
Off to go make the Dwarf Fortress vs. Minecraft thread over on the other side...
EDIT: Minecraft equivalent thread
They will descend upon us like a school of bloodthirsty carp. The end is nigh, brethren.
This isn't the first time I've heard people speak unfavorably about the Minecraft community. What exactly is wrong with them? Their game isn't so obscure that they can pretentious about it, it isn't so mainstream that it would attract the stereotypical l33t speak moron, and it doesn't have any characters for the forum to establish creepy fanbases around (Talimancers are so fucking weird). So I don't see what would make them so bad.
Personally, I think it's a bad idea even mentioning DF on the Minecraft forums. Not because I think it will start a flame war, but because the MC community really aren't the brand of people whose attention we should be bringing our forum to.Also, IMO, both are good, but Minecraft is almost in its beta, and dwarf fortress has been around for like 4-5 years, and is still in alpha...
I think the difference between beta and alpha in Minecraft will be completely negligible. The differences will just be in name. And Notch has been claiming the development has been rapidly nearing beta for months now so I don't think it's almost.
Yeah, Dwarf Fortress wins considering it has a 3 year lead on Minecraft in content. It's a really unfair comparison.
Off to go make the Dwarf Fortress vs. Minecraft thread over on the other side...
EDIT: Minecraft equivalent thread
No, don't stray from the idea, hold the thought instead.Quadnity? Or, like, the upside-down triangle inside the Triforce or something...
I want to push thorns into their brains, lash the meat off their bones, break their every fucking limb, nail them to a tree, tie a know into their guts, fill their throats with laxatives and then ask eloi, eloi, that dead groundhog just now seriously outdid your sonny. Make him the fourth part to the trinity, will you?
I think [g]et just picks up the chest. 'p' puts items in containers, and 'r' removes them.I've never used this command, but... according to the ? menu, 'r' removes an item you are wearing or from a container.
I'm pretty sure most of the mental attributes have no use in adventurer mode yet, but I once min-maxed my adventurer's stats by lowering his memory. Every time I came back to an area after I explored it, it was blacked out again.
I'm pretty sure you actually need to use the [g]et command.
Spacial Sense and Kinsthetic Sense have an effect on accuracy and dodging, but the other mental attributes don't do anything yet.
