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Either way, a 1 or 2 pump leapfrog is going to be *way* more trouble than it's worth especially considering DF2010 greatly increases the availability of magma safe materials.

Personally I recommend adding in lots of extra points and embarking with a bunch of steel bars until the military bugs get sorted out.  At least that way when your dorfs do feel like equipping themselves, they'll have halfway decent stuff.

That seemed to do the trick, and added some water to my water tower while I was at it.  Yay, I can see ground again. 

Saving after all that took literally about 5 straight minutes, which is kind of funny considering.

I'm having the same problem in my fort, though for me it was a slain dwarf that made the mess.  The problem seems to stem from the fact that blood spatters don't take into account quantity of blood, so whenever a dorf walks into a newly spattered tile it treats it like it's just as messy as a fresh one.  So its not usually noticeable if your military killed some random critter in the middle of nowhere but if any of it gets on a major traffic lane youve suddenly got more blood than a 70s Hong Kong movie.  It should be a pretty easy fix when Toady gets around to it, but no dobut the military/health stuff is much higher priority.

Apparently dfhack has an option to remove all the blood, will be looking into it myself.

4 pumps in parallel?  Both designs should scale just fine for that.

I find the easiest way is to build a big tall structure that looks like this on each z-level:
WWWWWW
WFFFFW
WWFFWW
  X 

Then cut out alternating holes to access the lower level and transfer power, wait a bit and  build the pumps, then replace the floor next to the pump-wall with a wall.  End result has each z-level look like this, with alternate z-levels being mirror image of all but the stairs
WWWWWW     WWWWWW
W.PPFW     WFPP.W
WWFWWW     WWWFWW
  X          X

It's a fair bit of micromanagement but much faster than manually constructing one z-level at a time, and with minimum risk of trapping dorfs provided you build the outer wall last (i.e. if they stand on the wrong side of the power-transfer hole they can path out diagonally.  It's optimized for constructions but digging just makes it easier thanks to channeling.

FYI if you're moving fluid up more than 40 z-levels or so I suggest breaking the pump stack up into two or three smaller ones and use cisterns to only have one engaged at any given time.  I haven't made any stacks that big yet but I've heard from those that have that a single huge stack creates lots of lag due to fluid calculations.

I think maybe there's something to the theory that it's heavily influenced by dwarf disposition.  In my previous fort (first serious DF attempt), in which the dorfs were markedly less happy/healthy I got almost exclusively posessions plus one fell during a particularly low point.  New fort is going along better overall and I'm now getting lots of secretive and a few fey and posessed.

If you just need them dead and don't care about doing it in style, I would suggest just digging a pit about 10 z-levels deep and throwing them down it via a Pit activity zone.  Just be sure that if you have a door or something down there to collect the stuff you don't toss any building-destroyers on the off chance they survive.

Alternatively, dig a shallower pit with spike traps at the bottom, and throw them down that.  A repeater isn't really necessary--just occasionally have a dorf pull a lever.