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Nice mountain fort trib. Wish I could find a nice steep mountain like that to build in.

Those are certainly interesting bugs pikachu. I don't really know how to use the bug tracker either but they certainly sound like the sort of bugs most people would't have discovered easily.

I just thought I'd post about quite an interesting story from my fort I only found out was interesting after checking dwarf descriptions and reports after the fact.

So,

I met my first were creature, a were gila monster, one of a new wave of migrants actually transformed on his way to my meeting hall. I only realised what was going on after a child and another dwarf got attacked by him. Wasn't certain how were curses worked so after a brief trip to the hospital, and trouble getting the child to stop playing, I got them both walled off in a secure pit.

When the next full moon came they both turned and the child actually killed the adult dwarf. I didn't think much about this and also forgot about burying the adult's remains. I only noticed this when I realised the child had a bad thought from watching a relative decay. So I checked, turns out it was his mother, that he had killed in a were-induced frenzy. I also thought I recognised the name of his father, I checked on the corpse of the first were beast (which I had also not thought to bury), turns out that was his father.

So father attacks mother and child, infects them, get's killed. Mother and child turn, child kills mother and is left to watch her corpse decay in front of him and now has to be segregated from the rest of the fort for his childhood onwards.

This has to be one of the most tragic orphan stories ever. I certainly don't have the heart to kill him now, but he seems bizarrely happy just playing make beleive in a small dirt pit between montly transformations. I will definitely be setting up some caged goblins to be released each full moon to keep him entertained.

Were monsters need enrichment, I am a responsibly crypto-zoologist.

I'm sure he isn't really fine just playing make believe month on month, it must be some kind of post-stress coping mechanism. I feel kind of bad that he is stuck in a pit with a viewing gallery for the other dwarves to mawkishly gape at him.

Anyone want to give me any other ideas on how I can at least make this poor orphan's life of isolation somewhat fulfilling? I must admit he is turning out to be a surprisinly handy 'full moon clock'.

Thanks for all the tips, has made it a lot clearer. I didn't think of 'playing' being a uninteruptible need fulfilling job. I just had to hack the child to death in the end . Then I decided to relaod cos I felt too guilty. DF hacked him into the pit (so felt cheaty for that) and when he turned he killed the other were gila monster. Actually turned out there was quite a dramatic story to it all which I'll eleaborate on in the appropriate forum.

Thanks again for the advice. I will be much less frustrated next time as I understand what the trouble was now.

Yeah, I got a bit worked up about this but only because it had been going so well till then. I did try a civilian alert many times with differently assigned burrows. The child would not stop playing make believe no matter what. That is all that was annoying me really. I accept were people infestations as part of the game I just felt it was unfair that the game mechanics were getting in my way rather than my own poor choices.

Thanks for the help though.

This is really getting on my nerves. I can just about wall off the child, though due to travelling diagonally I have to build 12 walls just to stop him leaving one stockpile. I had a bright idea and built a lever and set it so  only he could pull it, told him to pull it and he decides to play make beleive for 20 days solid!

Is there basically no way to get a child to move where you want them to at all? I just thought there would be a neat solution.

Edit: And apparently restricted areas mean absolutely nothing to children for some reason.

Edit: I posted this in gameplay questions. The answer seems to be 'No, you cannot get a child to move anywhere you want. Just wall off half your fortress.' this has really got on my nerves.

I have two were-beast dwarves. I am trying to wall them off somewhere save. Have set up a burrow, assigned them to it, put other dwarves in a seperate burrow, tried activating alerts etc.

The adult dwarf seems to at least hang around there, if I put a meeting area in, but the child just will not effing stop playing in a storage area nearby. Have had to save scumm already. I cannot get them there and it is driving me crazy.

Inspiring. Love the ambition of what you build, particularly build up and out with your fort rather than down. Out of interest what is your framerate like on a fort like this?

P.S. Your lava shark was astounding!

Yeah, thanks for the progress report and for your time.