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Well right now I'm very happy. On my most recent embark, the ocean actually has a substantial amount of fish in it! I don't even need to bother with farming right now with this much fish.

A skeletal groundhog? That sounds like the least threatening abomination of nature possible.

Well the settlement of Galleypunches has been founded on a tropical ocean. One thing I immediately noticed upon embark was that, despit the information given to me on the post embark screen, there were plenty of trees to be found. So I won't have to be to dependent on the caverns. I'm still going to tunnel into the early since I don't want to set up an irrigation system (at least not right now).

I also found a good location for my fortress right away. There is a cliff wall that connects directly to the ocean, with no shore in between the two like in most areas. This means I can connect my fortress to the underground without needing to touch the surface. So I'll build my entrance around that and then just use a drawbridge for surface access for trade caravans.

Quote from: Stik on June 20, 2010, 12:00:00 pm

Quote from: lanceleoghauni on June 20, 2010, 01:09:00 am

THE THAW.

WE ARE SAVED.

Praise be to the gods.

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as of right now, Much to do still

Edit: went to irrigate my farm chamber:

HOLY %#&*! an 11X13 room filled to 7/7 INSTANTLY 

on the plus side there's no way in hell anything is getting to my fortress.

Wow... either i'm over doing it with putting 3x3 bedrooms or your a ripoff xD

I'll be giving them real bedrooms eventually, to start with I just needed them to get everything below the surface post haste before it thawed out and drowned everyone. Most of those bedrooms even have doors now!

My tree farm is also underway.

Bedrooms are pretty low on what I consider to be necessary in my fortresses. I just dig one large room, throw a few beds in, and have the dwarves sleep there for years. It doesn't bother them to much. I feel like making them their own personal rooms would waste to much time and stone at the beginning.

Also I just genned a new world for my fortress. I was looking at legends and I noticed there's a Kraken called "the leather hide". Weird name.

Now I just need to decide which ocean to build my fort on.

Back on the subject of the Tigerman I acquired earlier. About a month after acquiring it, the Tigerman died of thirst. Yes, I made sure to release the Tigerman from its cage. It spent its time in the meeting hall. I had 2 wells and plenty of booze available, so I'm not quite sure why the Tigerman died of thirst. Anyone know more about the nature of Tigermen and why such a thing would happen?

You can also avoid the trapped-builder problem by setting a wall to be built where you don't want them to stand, and then suspending it. They'll avoid standing on the designation.

Is this reliable? In my last fort I had a big problem with stupid dwarves attempting to remove floors whilst standing on tiles that would plunge into the ocean as a result of the deconstruction. So a way to keep them off of these tiles would have been great.


EDIT: Nevermind. I just remembered that walls can't be built on constructed floors.

On the subject of removing aquifers, does anyone know if this has any effect on the ability to fish? I ask this because despite embarking on ocean biomes my dwarves always catch next to no fish. On my old maps before I removed aquifers, I would get plenty of fish out of just murky pools. I know it's probably just a coincidence, but I just want to make sure.

I don't think I've ever managed to get a world in which dwarves were wiped out, despite several people claiming that it happens far to often. The only civilization I find that dies out to quickly is the Darners, but they're my own custom civ so it's probably just my fault.

Anyways, I believe starting without a dwarven civilization means that you will get one or two waves of migrants, and that's it. You can trade with other species, but no dwarves will ever come to your fortress.