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By just getting rid of protectorates altogether?
It was introduced to stop player vassal feeding expansion. Now that vassal feeding has been nerfed to hell and back, vassal incomes extremely reduced and finally the ability to force nations to give you trade power I see no reason why there are protectorates. Merely slap on a diplo-vassalise malus for differing tech group and let vassals be vassals.

Have any of you actually got any use out of a protectorate (apart from the recent anti-coalition cheese)? I never once bothered with them since they're so incredibly useless. A bit of trade power which usually amounts to nothing now that you can just get a couple trade companies/lightships and completely dominate trade.

Also offtopic my graphics card blew up so I'm stuck with onboard, no EU4 (or anything really) for a long while. Couldn't have happened at a worse time, broke and about to finish up a Friesland-Netherlands achievement run (was going so well, managed to keep the filthy Iberian colonist cheaters completely out of Africa and beyond).

God no. Not in any way shape or form. It's always been an accepted fact that to play any Paradox game in MP you have to enforce about a bajillion house rules. Why Johan is putting so much emphasis on MP boggles me, especially since their last MP focused game, March of the Eagles, bombed harder than a poor analogy.

I'm a bit confused by your post there, Rakonas. Getting +3 tolerance of either heathen or heretics will cause those provinces to never affect your religious unity, thus giving you 100%. It was a change in 1.6.
 
Most players, including myself, do not bother with culture converting as it's a massive dip sink that is better spent on buildings or vassal expanding. Even so you still have missionaries and decisions/policies to increase your conversion rate so you can still convert those choice provinces. Also Humanism gives you a bigger threshold for culture acceptance meaning that cultural conversion is a bit less useful.

Finally religious equality didn't exist and still doesn't exist. I always found it incredibly strange it was possible to get higher tolerance of other faiths than your primary in EU3 ... how does that even work? Tolerance is tolerance but it's far from equality.

Patch 1.7 is live. Hilariously I noticed the historical truces (like Granda/Castile) are still just 5 years.

EDIT: Declared war on Urbino without a CB. That alone was enough to get me a coalition with almost all of Italy and Germany, AE has not been changed. GG Paradox.

Truces were always 5 years.

Add to that all republics now have scaling republic tradition costs and I see no possible reason why you would never go trade republic. All hail Ragusa, conqueror of all that can be surveyed or traded. 

If you get it, the fan translation patch is an absolute must-have to fix the pitiful translations in the default game... but it's an easy install and makes the game much more enjoyable.

Holy crap, thanks for that link. Never knew such a thing existed. Finally I might actually have a basic idea of what the hell I'm doing in that game.