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Keep in mind, regardless of what happened here, a politician resigning because they've been conclusively found to have done something bad is good. A politician resigning because they know that, whatever they may or may not have done, nonstop media hounding will prevent them from ever being able to do their job, not to mention probably destroy their personal life, is not a good thing.

I seriously don't know where to start. I mean, it's like trying to explain love to a sociopath.

Screwing people over to achieve your own goals is bad, ultimately, because it causes suffering, but more proximately, because societies function better when everyone is able to cooperate to some degree - not in the sense of working together to some goal, but in the sense of doing things that improve other people's lot. The more you screw people over, the more it erodes the fabric of society, not to mention creating lots of problems that somebody then has to deal with.

That's off the top of my head. I'm sure people can come up with other reasons.

Oh yeah, and empathy for other people is kinda big. But if you don't have that to begin with, you can't acquire it by someone telling you how it works.

Quote from: Africa on June 16, 2011, 05:51:14 pm

Because ruthless means you screw a lot of people over?

I get that, but why is that bad?

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If it has to be explained, you probably wouldn't understand even if I explained it...

Because ruthless means you screw a lot of people over?

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I would rather have a masterwork steel shortsword than a masterwork bauxite floodgate.

A masterwork steel shortsword is only as deadly as the hand that wields it. A bauxite floodgate is only as dangerous as the volcano it wields. A legendary sworddwarf can kill many goblins. A totally unskilled hauler with a lever activated floodgate can kill them ALL.

Yeah, that but floodgate can be any old floodgate. A masterwork sword is still more useful to have around.

Quote from: Africa on June 15, 2011, 09:23:28 pm

@SalmonGod: Huh? As in, we're a third world country but there's a small population of obscenely wealthy people? Or as in, we're a third world country but most of the population is comparatively obscenely wealthy? Because our poor people ARE obscenely wealthy by world standards, but I'm not sure where the third world country comes in.

Then how come most of the young adults I know with college degrees are struggling to find employment that they can more than scrape by on, or have mostly given up and just live with their parents?

Most of them have various cheap gadgets that they accumulate over time and grant the appearance of not being dirt poor, but then many of those are commonly gifts from their elders who got financially established when there was more opportunity, and even if all their irresponsible expenditures over time were combined, would not amount to much against real expenses such as a mortgage.

Could just be where I live, just outside of Indianapolis... which looks luxurious compared to the rural life if you drive out just half an hour, where you can find small towns that really do look like they're in a third world country.

Things may be shitty, but third world? Have you seen any third world countries? Hell, I haven't...unless Egypt counts, though there's some mighty terrible places in Egypt. But America has a long way down to go before it's third world, even in immigrant slums and Appalachia.

Secondly, attacking the media or the population at large does nothing to defend Weiner's actions.

I see you still haven't grasped that I'm not defending him.

Wait, has it been revealed he did something worse than camwhores and trying to turn random women into camwhores?

Also "pays its bills?" Come on, don't try and make them look like the good guy. Although I suppose their audience is as much to blame.