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Quote from: RexMundi on August 06, 2014, 10:31:19 am

I want a rebirth of all the old war3 maps through dota one day.

Valve released the alpha of the Dota 2 Workshop Tools today. They're pretty darn impressive, honestly. The tile editor reminds me a lot of Warcraft 3's World Editor, and the d2modd.in guys say that the tools allow for things on another level above warcraft's mapping scene. (Especially on the coding side of things; no more will save codes be 64 characters long, if even required!)

Spoiler: What some other guy made in five minutes (click to show/hide)

Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend: Attempting to learn how this works, as I was a decently competent mapmaker for Warcraft 3, and would love to "port" something like Island/Jungle/Ice Troll Tribes (Jungle was my personal favorite), Parasite, or something similar.

Nasus is a great champion, in my opinion, and his late game strength is heavily dependent on being able to farm effectively with your Q. Top lane, that means he's easily countered by any ranged character, and as a jungle, you're pretty much at the mercy of the enemy's counterjungle ability for the first five or six levels.

Champions that can outsustain him in jungle and still make it over to yours during your extremely slow early clear speed can make it a bit of a pain in the ass to keep playing, as being behind with Nasus ends up hurting twice as much, both via damage output with Q and by making you easy prey for ranged champions with lower defense than you may otherwise have.

That being said, once he gets rolling, all you need to do is build tanky items, and maybe something late game as a damage item to give your attacks that extra oomph. Boots of Swiftness are my preferred boots with the Alacrity enchantment, as he already moves fairly quickly, and this helps him catch up as well as move through the jungle that much faster, while somewhat mitigating his weakness to being kited.

I almost find Wither to be a defining skill moreso than his Q, as it slows the enemy to a crawl at later levels, and takes effect over a long time, giving plenty of opportunity to go up and smack them. His E is a farming skill for the build; nothing more, nothing less. It serves no purpose other than to enhance the damage of your Q further, and make early farming a bit less painful.

My preferred build is as follows:

Of course, it doesn't turn out like that every game, but it works well enough for me as a jungle. I haven't top laned as Nasus in a very long time, so I can't really say what works there. I think the semicarry potential of someone who, like Veigar, can one shot anything but a tank late game due to his scaling mechanics, has put me off of most other jungles, despite his early weaknesses and easy counterability.

In public games, you're unlikely to find someone who is able (or willing) to counter jungle, as most will tend to stick to their own areas until they get the level or skill that lets them gank, and they'll tend to leave you alone in the jungle. Security through obscurity; if they don't see you on the map, you might as well not exist until you actually become a threat.

Quote from: Astral on August 04, 2014, 11:34:46 pm

So is it just me, or it the server currently dead at the moment?

I was ghosting around last night to get an idea of the station layout, and it still appears to be the same exploded mess now as it was before.

Do you mean layout, or just that shit hit the fan in the round?

I think I may have been looking at the alternate server by mistake. Joining the main one seems to have a completely different layout on the "Setup Character" menu, so I'll see if people are on later tonight.

So is it just me, or it the server currently dead at the moment?

I was ghosting around last night to get an idea of the station layout, and it still appears to be the same exploded mess now as it was before.

Number one! Are you semi decent at RP? IE, you can make a character and be able to roleplay them!

If I feel enough into a character, I can RP, though it's usually not my first method of playing a game. I was decent at it on HellMOO, enough to have some alts that nobody linked together, and have had some 3.5 and Pathfinder experience.

Number two! Are you coming into the game looking for combat or RP(Though this is less of a list thing and more of a 'what to expect')

I'm honestly not sure what to expect. It looks fun from what I've seen, and the roleplay sessions for Parasite and similar maps led to more fun than the combat, due to being able to play the devils advocate (while being the devil), point fingers, and generally screw around. Being as it appears text based, it seems it would be easier than face to face, and I know how to word things well enough.

Number three! If 'combat' is your answer, perhaps you could go to Goon. That place has more combat oriented things than us in terms of how often it occurs(Though I honestly don't experience the grieftacular fest that goon is)

Number three! If 'RP' is your answer, either stay here with us or go to Baystation as both of us are RP oriented(Though Baystation is moreso than us.)

By "Stay here with us" I presume you mean the server hosted in the original post, yes? What's the difference between that and Baystation?

Number four! Did you look at this list and look away because you answered wrong. If yes, try the game because you might like it

Fish.

I'll give it a shot, see if it tickles my fancy.

Congrats to Samarkand and Duuvian on the Everquest beta key win! That's all for this thread, so it will be locked.

Double post, but congratulations to Bouchart for winning the CK2 drawing, and IcyTea31 for the Spec Ops: The Line win.

Everquest key drawing will commence tomorrow.