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Is there any way to tell who is a student, and for which teacher?

Is not having a high teaching skill that big of a handicap?

Can't recall the formula for teaching, but I know that if your teaching is too low, you won't be able to skill everyone up to that liberal's high skills levels. For example, 3 teaching and 15 dodge may only be able to get the students to say maybe 5 dodge or so. You'd need to level the teaching skill higher to teach to higher levels.

There's no real "teacher or student" system IIRC, just anyone who is at the same location as someone set to Teaching mode will automatically learn. So with 9 people at a location where 1 guy is teaching, all 8 others will learn. Not sure on the requirements on what needs to be done to be taught, like if you can't go out to sites or you can't be doing activities or what.

It's version 4.04, not sure how much effort it's going to be for this person to update to the newest versions. But yeah, it plays impressively well on my mediocre as hell smartphone (don't even ask what it is, I have no idea).

Quote from: Jonathan S. Fox on June 14, 2013, 03:59:34 pm

Although there's already a bias against targeting low-threat enemies, the situations where you'd get a bad luck and have your squad seem to focus fire on the most pointless target are sufficiently frustrating that I've just gone ahead and made it so that your Liberals will always focus on "dangerous" enemies, with no chance of attacking low threat targets. Expect this change in LCS 4.08!

Angelic quire in the in the distance.

*Choir. But I share this sentiment. All hail the glorious Fox!

Quote from: Leafsnail on May 27, 2013, 04:53:22 pm

Door guards do auto-detect you, you need a sleeper.

Or just shoot your way in.

I have 3 sleepers on the compound. How does this work? I'm still getting rejected. On the gentlemen's club, I had a sleeper and she let me in (even when I was -18 years old). But seems like this doesn't work this way in this compound. What sleeper should I have?

That's odd, it should let you right through, pretty sure at least...

You can get AA12s from CCS leaders. I think that there should be some things you cannot buy, to make it more interesting.

Which is better, an M16 or an AA-12?

AA-12 is just like a shotgun, it doesn't fare too well against armored opponents but absolutely obliterates unarmored ones

I don't remember where, but there was a forum post asking if it was a glitch he found a mutant with "1" in all stats, well I found something better.

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Meeting with Billy Brooks, Mutant, Downtown                        Money: $5510
--Billy Brooks, Civilian-------------------------Liberal------------------------
Hrt:    1  Agi:    1           Top Skills:
Int:    1  Str:    1           Knife: 1
Wis:    1  Char:   1           Security: 1
Hlth:   1  Trans: On Foot      Writing: 1
Weapon: None                   Street Sense: 1
Clothes: Clothes               First Aid: 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------One in all stats and skills.

That is... quite impressive. Ultra-hard mode playthrough: only 1-stat mutants allowed.

I think the seduction skill could be looked at. Ive been trailing along a Deathsquad Officer for over two years, and since then the police regulation and death penalty laws have become C, so they don't even exist anymore.

Yeah, seduction is a little off in general. Regular people are incredibly easy to seduce, even Police Officers aren't that bad. But high level Conservatives? Forget it. I recently spent about 3 in-game months trying to get a CCS sleeper, had to go through about 12 different guys to finally get one with my 20 CHA and 17 seduction founder with 3+ business/science and a bit of religion, plus some of the common skills like driving and such that the CCS guys tend to have (so I get better rolls on the dates), all while spending money on every date. A large portion of the time, they would drop me on the first date. With 17 seduction. Some of these formulae really need some changing, maybe rebalancing like making it easier to seduce but it costs more money/takes more time.

Quote from: BoxOfAids on May 09, 2013, 02:05:29 pm

Getting a bit off topic but still related to this release, I was going ahead and testing the assassination of the CCS Bosses. The Bar and Grill one was really easy, my sleeper got me past the guards and I stealthed my guy over to the Boss and killed him, no problem at all. So then I moved on to the Fallout Shelter. I had used seduction to get the location, but didn't grab the guy as a sleeper, just got the location and broke off the dating. Because of this, I couldn't get past the door. I didn't test it, but would you need 2 stealth guys to be able to get past the entrance undetected? There's always 2 door guards, so if you stabbed one of them, the other would see and you'd go to alarmed state. Since there's no other entrances, would the only way to assassinate the boss then be to have 2 stealth liberals? In any case, I feel that there should be some secondary way in, like maybe a back entrance with only 1 guard but a high-security door that's tough to open, just so that it's somewhat plausible to do one-man-army assassinations.

I think Fox changed it so you can get past the B&G bouncers without a sleeper; the latter two locations are completely nonpublic, though.  As such I know I didn't make a back door, and haven't gotten that far in my playthroughs to check on the new maps.

(Guard/Bouncer positions always have two people in the current coding--unless the alarm's going off already, at which point they're unstaffed.)

I know I've been able to drop lines to generic Conservative encounters and subsequently fade into the shadows.  Perhaps leaving the encounter and coming back might leave the lone guard and set up a backstab?

I just realized... even if you backstab the guards, you'd probably set the alarm off before you get to the boss, since people will find the body and set off the alarm after X amount of time. So it seems REALLY implausible to assassinate Bosses anywhere that you don't have Sleepers. Maybe make some change to make it plausible? I like the system, but it seems impossible to do assassinations without Sleepers...

Also, bug that I noticed in this non-SVN version (not sure if fixed yet): Got sleeper for Bar and Grill, attacked it, sleeper gets outed from the attack. Now have no sleeper there. Go into the site with combat squad again, "Go right on through", the door guards acted as if I still had the sleeper active. Weird.