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Might be good, but at the same time most of these games I see in those sort end up very...Preachy, and tend to only appeal back to those who already believe the message.

How's the multi since the patch dropped?

When marines die, if you have apocatheries.

Also if the 10th company isn't full, they won't recruit.


... Ok, probably gonna do the wiki now...

There's plenty of information on the 1d4chan page, including the weapon stats of all weapons ingame.

You could get perfect stats in FO3 if you had Broken Steel, though:

Quoth the wiki:

Quote from: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_SPECIAL

It is possible for the player to get all of their SPECIAL up to 10 without cheating if the player has Broken Steel. Once the player gets to level 30, if they choose the perk Almost Perfect, all of their SPECIAL lower than 9 will be raised to 9. If they then proceed to collect the 7 SPECIAL bobbleheads, each of which permanently increases the stat by 1, they will have maxed out their SPECIAL to 10 in each category. If the player obtains the 7 bobbleheads before they choose the Almost Perfect perk, they will only be able to get that category to 9 (unless it was at 10 before the perk).

Collecting the bobbleheads wasn't too difficult, IIRC, if you looked up where they were on the wiki. Basically you just needed to know NOT to collect them before level 30 unless you had the stat for that bobblehead at 10 already.

Which tended to be Intelligence, so you could max out all the skills ingame.

I wasn't expecting to like this $10 much, but I do and I'm only done with the prologue

Spoiler: Question about Toriel - Do not open if you haven't played (click to show/hide)

It's not possible to actually save her, is it?
I was so sad I reloaded my last save and found the pacifist end to the fight...but when you do that, and go back to the house, she's not there. She doesn't pick up the phone. Then Flowey heavily implies that she commit suicide.

Really no happy endings

Whoops, been playing too much multi lately then for it.

To be fair they do keep their heroes pretty ambiguous at times, Urza was pretty much a confirmed Sociopath, Sarkhan may be better but his actions at Tarkir screwed that plane over so hard. (Even if it is to fight the Eldrazi).

And Nissa still had a vast hatred of Vampires to the point of screwing over Sorin's plan over the Eldrazi...And no she wasn't Elf Hitler, though the Joraga tribe were pretty much bigots, and the story does show they and her were pretty bad at one point, though she's at least willing to fight, and nobody really cares about her past considering the bigger threat (considering some of the people on team good right now..)

Characters are pretty complicated instead of black and white good in MTG, most of the time.

You say the book canon isn't separate, but whenever I look at WoW lore I see book-reliant information stuck in its own section with a little disclaimer so you know to take it less seriously.

To me it looks pretty similar to Star Trek or Magic the Gathering or any other franchise big enough to have mediocre books based on it - there isn't an official separation, but you have to take anything the books say with a grain of salt because the creators frequently ignore/contradict all but the biggest plot elements. That contributes to most people ignoring the books and two very different perceptions of canon forming. But I'll admit this might not be the case with WoW lore and I could just be misinterpreting how Blizzard and the fans handle it.

And the "two Hearthstone canons" comment was not serious.

The problem is that Blizzard doesn't do this, they've done it with Starcraft 2 where many of the newer characters comes from the Book Series (Explaining Tychus history with Raynor, Jimmy's Crew, some of the newer characters histories are never explained ingame but they have been in the book series that came out beforehand). While characters in World of Warcraft have come from the book series (Rhonin was a prominent example) and major plot's have been resolved through the book series (Want to know how the whole Time Travel thing really went down with Garrosh for example? Was done in the books! Or how he convinced Grommash? In the books/comic!) The thing about Blizzard is that many of the writers of the books are those who also tend to work with Blizzards other works at times, so they can keep it more inhouse.

Also while Star Trek does as you say, MTG does keep it's books canon actually, they just don't tend to matter because of the medium too much. You probably should've stated "Star Wars and Star Trek's Expanded universe".

Not a big fan of this approach too much myself, sure it adds alot more detail, but I was literally blind as to who the heck the crew was in Starcraft 2 because there was barely any information on them ingame.