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I decided to mix things up a bit and built an incinerator instead of an atom smasher.  Just a hollow shaft up to dump things in.  It had a graphite block road on the bottom, connected by a granite door, and a ramp leading up to dump things in.  I added a little bit of magma with DFhack to start the fire.  The idea was to dump everything in there, when the fire burned out I could go in and salvage anything that didn't burn, mostly metal that could be melted down.

The problem?  Fire safe does not mean fire proof.  I didn't realize that fire, unlike magma, will heat up adjacent tiles.  Or that fire burns hot enough to melt some types of stone, like the granite door I used.  Also, I didn't realize that when going though the stocks screen, I had unforbidden some of the items dumped.  Sure enough, some dwarf came by to pick something up, walking right into the fire.  He got about 10 tiles away before he started bleeding from his melted-off fat, and bleed out after another 10 tiles.

P.S.   Granite melts at 11440 degrees, and according to DFhack, fire is 11612 degrees.  It also melted (and came close to boiling) some zinc cages I had thrown in.   As for the creatures inside those cages...  well, they were no worse off then the creatures from the wooden cages.

You know ledge, one of these days a dwarf in your Guts n' Glory squad is going to survive. He's going to strangle every single goblin to death, and then rip out their hearts with his bare hands. He's going to then rip off the goblins' clothing, and start a fire by rubbing two arrows together (which he pulled from his own thigh). After roasting the hearts over the open flame, he is going to devour them one by one, letting the blood run down his beard. As his final act of rage, he will tear the remaining arrows from his body, and, binding them together with burnt flesh, construct a giant shrine to Armok.

Then, he's going to slowly, calmly, walk back to your fortress.

You're going to have some explaining to do.

Quote from: Heavenfall on August 09, 2010, 07:53:58 pm

chickensplosions?

Thermonuclear chickensplosions? 

Quote from: Urist McTaverish on August 09, 2010, 07:36:41 pm

Urist McMason has drowned.
Urist McMason has carved a masterpiece!

Yes, in that order.

So he carved dwarflantis?

Quote from: Urist McTaverish on August 08, 2010, 01:12:17 pm

No because an oxide isn't the product of combustion, it's the product of oxidization.  Iron Oxide (rust) happens because the metal is exposed to air.  Presumably the pure Crystalium (yeah I know it isn't real) would end up having a thin coat of oxide to protect it from further corrosion as it'd be a reactive metal, but it'd presumably be only chemically, and not physically, reactive in its pure state.  Reactive metals form bonds more easily (and most often with oxygen) to maintain stability.  The oxygen that bonds to it would make it more volatile, as oxygen is a key part of combustion, as can be see with the awesome reaction of Fe2O3+Al+Heat=More Heat+Fe, more commonly referred to as Thermite.

Yes I know, every time you inject science into a fantasy discussion God kills a catgirl, but it just bugged me.  And actually I'm a Biologist so

And you were doing so well, too...

("Volatile" in chemical terms is "easy to evaporate". This happens to contribute to the explosion risk of flammables, as flammable volatiles like gasoline can pre-mix with air, but "volatile" does not mean "combustible". It refers to the ease of changing state, and that has led to the more general usage of a situation that is prone to rapidly changing - and unfortunately, is often associated with blowing up. This connotation is creeping back into use in a chemical context, erroneously.)

Quote from: MaximumZero on August 03, 2010, 05:41:10 pm

Seasonal Autosave, FTW!

How do you set that up? I NEED it.