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Hi, I have a problem I haven't been able to find referenced elsewhere (in this thread or out of it).

Using the 43.05-r11 pack (64-bit I believe, on Win10), with mostly default config (I disabled Aquifers, Sound, & Movies), & the Phoebus tileset (since any attempt to change the tileset from the PyLNP launcher causes the game itself to CTD on world load due to the absence of "tool pedastel", this includes switching back to Phoebus), once I embark in Dwarf mode, switching to any screen which doesn't show the map itself (i.e. [Esc] to options, [n] to nobles, [?] to help) results in a black map screen segment when I return, & to get it back I have to do something like hitting [tab] (I know there are other options, but I've only used them by accident so I don't know what they are) get the map to draw again.

Is this something that is known, with known workaround? or somehow unique to my install?

Quote from: NW_Kohaku on June 20, 2015, 12:55:21 pm

Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 20, 2015, 11:19:58 am

Making a really big mountain takes a hell of a long time (in the realm of decades, possibly even centuries), even with around 200 labourers and minimal complications. I'm talking about a mountain that takes up most of your four standard embark squares and is anywhere around 50zlvls high; making a more hollow mountain would speed things up considerably, as would casting it out of solid obsidian if you managed to get the infrastructure up for layer by layer magma and water pumping.

I'll just point out that the default vanilla maximum z-height is only 15zs above ground level.  You have to go out of your way to have a 100z ceiling like in Silentthunders.

DFhack infiniteSky allows for more sky levels

I usually just adjust the "[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]" world_gen.init tag, though I believe that has some impact on the speed of worldgen & simulation.

...That would be useful info at the start of this process    Old and self-installed stuff can be interestingly weird in all kinds of ways, and way harder to debug for both the obvious and other reasons.

To clarify, as I believe I originally mentioned, I started using Phoebus back when I first got into DF2010, because whatever I'd tried before that added recipes (&/or did something else that cause worlds generated to differ from expectations when using settings from the then current worldgen thread), my question in this thread was because ~10 minutes earlier than my post asking the question I'd discovered Phoebus apparently changed a bunch of things, & my admittedly unstated assumption was that that could have an impact on world & embark generation.

My mentioning of my memories being hazy was in the context of explaining that what I remembered of whichever tileset had led to me adopting Phoebus' didn't necessarily apply to current versions of whichever tileset that was (& also why I'm not sure which one it was).

I wasn't asking for debug help with the old version, just advice (which you provided) as to where I should go with my current installation of your current version (which I did a clean install of).

Much appreciated PeridexisErrant, also thank you for continuing to maintain the LNP, I've been using yours as long as I've been aware of it.

Do you have the multilayer view mode on? Forget the name of it, its part of some tilesets. Thats caused me a few crashes.

Also the new trees have some crashes where they try and geow through your constructions, and things designated for building.

Its a bit annoying, but much worse is the later game fps death.

Multilevel is a part of "TWBT", the command "multilevel 0" in the dfhack window should turn it off for the current session, or you can comment it out in the "extra_dfhack_init.init" file in the game's (not the pack's) root directory to disable it unless you specifically activate it for a session.

Oops. Sorry for the misinformation then.

Quote from: JAFANZ on June 14, 2015, 12:39:29 pm

New to DF2014, using the LNP, Dwarf Therapist is willing to tell me some of my animals are non-breeders (Asexual/Homosexual, turns out I didn't get a free breeding pair of horses after all).

Where I have more than oneof a given Animal/Gender ('cos I'd read here on the forums that non-breeders can put a cramp in your plans), how do I identify in-game which ones aren't going to reproduce & can therefore be sacrificed on the altar of butchery?

Non-breeders have their benefits, e.g. steady wool production without ever getting too much sheep. See also gelding.

Imo, animal husbandry is one of the areas where you profit most from DwarfTherapist. I don't change job assignments very often, but I have to slaughter dozens of animals every year and need to distinguish between them. -> You can order slaughtering in DwarfTherapist.

Yeah, I was planning to keep the non-breeding females, at least initially, when it comes time for culling that'll be a criterion though.

But for my grazers I'd really prefer to get rid of the non-breeding males, at least initially, since it's going to be a while 'til I breach the caverns.

Speaking of which, accordingo to the wiki grazers (well, sheep at least), look to have different grazer values than in DF2012, meaning the old listing of Pasturage requirements is probably not entirely helpful, has the relationship between the current formula & tiles of cave moss needed been established yet?

Also, is it still recommended for pastures to be on up-stairs for prevention of tree growth?