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If you have no immigrants and no caravans, and your civilization is described as having 'no important leaders', then most likely you are in a world where the dwarves were wiped out during worldgen.  Your dwarves are the last dwarves in the world.

it's time for to turn the babies back on, set up a 1 tile meeting square, and lots of booze imo

What, like a reactor?

I think if you pump water into a channel that loops back around behind the pump you can power something like 4 water wheels? I've never done it because i honestly can't find a use for power outside over-elaborate drowning traps and i've given up on bothering with magma pump stacks after spending a whole day on one and then having the bottom pump be built backwards and not be accessible anymore.

Quote from: jei on September 19, 2010, 02:14:55 pm

Quote from: Zaik on September 19, 2010, 04:56:20 am

Would having a large number(971) deceased units affect my FPS? I remember someone mentioning a tool that could remove those, but i don't remember what it was called. I'm still on 31.12, so stuff should still work.

Probably not so much them being dead as all their items still being around and their blood, vomit and water being around said items and still multiplying through smears and such.

Although, recent Dorf Science suggests, or gives reason to the suspicion, that the FPS loss may also be due to other factors, perhaps some invisible vermin getting way too common as opposed to catsplosion?

[CREATURE:FLY]

How do I make them all magically die by editing creature_insects.txt ? Might be worth to test out vermin theory too by mass-destroying them all somehow. Ideas how to accomplish this easily?

Similar way of getting rid of vomit, though much more dangerous dwarfy.

Go into the raws and edit all your vermins' [HOMEOTHERM] to a retardedly high number. 12000 = magma, as far as I can tell. So....way higher than that.

When you load up your game again, every single one of them *should* explode into a fireball instantaneously. And every one that ever comes on the map after that will also instantly explode. I have no idea how this will affect dwarves though. Judging by how the thermonuclear catsplosion thing went, probably badly. It'd be an easy way to see exactly how much of them are on the map though.

On the other hand, you could also try freezing them out, setting [HOMEOTHERM] below 10000, however i have no idea if this will actually work. All insects except dragonflies have the biome restriction NOT_FREEZING, so i would hope that they'd die.

However, the thing that really makes me wonder if it's actually vermin is they seem to all have a MAXAGE of 1. Er, actually 1:1, which is *probably* 1 year baby 1 year adult, but i don't actually know because i just started messing with this stuff. They could be reproducing on a massive scale to offset their small age, but overdoing it because they are required to have 1 year as a baby and then 1 as an adult rather than a more realistic year or much, much, much less for the whole process, that would easily cause it i suppose.

Yes, it's directly related to the value of the stone that was there.

Also the quality of the engraving matters a lot, however a native platinum floor is worth a lot more than a magnetite floor is worth a lot more than random trash stone floors.

The good thing about constructed floors and walls though is you can build them out of almost anything that would make sense to have a wall out of. No cloth or leather, but for example, if you have a *lot* of iron and flux, building a steel room for some jerk noble will probably shut him up. I've not actually tried that to test the value though, i think i might do that right now out of curiousity.

Edit: dug out a 5x7 block of space in black sand and built a wall around it and floors with plain steel bars. Gave it an exceptional junk stone door and masterwork bed. Room came out as a "Grand Bedroom", coming out ahead of a lot of masterwork engraved rooms that were sandstone and other junk stone. Used 34 steel bars and the aforementioned furniture. I'm not sure, but i don't think steel blocks would make the room have any more value, as both are 150 dwarf$. It might give it a "Smooth" effect like it does for stones though, which i know increases the value, but random junk stones have a value of 3 and the blocks have a value of 5, so there's no way to be sure without wasting 34 steel bars and i'm not feeling up to it right now

Happens to me all the time when i'm building ceilings over weapon traps that get a lot of use.

Quote from: Gearheart on September 19, 2010, 07:45:54 am

Well that's no fun.

Now your military wont have anything to kill.

He'll have fun if he forgets to restrict his burrows before a goblin ambush sets off all the traps. 

On a constructive note, how many people here use stonefall traps? I imagine most people are sticking to the tried-and-true 10x steel serrated disc weapon traps, but stone is ever so plentiful.

I've used them a few times, they are very effective for the price(two worthless stones and a minute or two for mechanism creation, building the trap, and loading it per trap tops), however Later on once you are hauling constantly just to keep your place cleaned up it really slows everything down having to load them over and over. Most of the stones in the traps survive to be used again, but it's still just too much additional work unless you've found a way to work in 80+ hauler/mason/mechanics at once. Once I upgrade my PDC i may give it a shot, but that's a while away still, my population cap is set at 110 for now. Gives me about 60 haulers overall.

Anyway, as far as effectiveness goes, anything not wearing armor(war animals, trolls, etc.) might survive 4 traps tops, generally less before being knocked unconscious or killed. The rocks are like extremely heavy hammers with terrible accuracy basically, each one could in theory jam skull through brain but most often breaks several bones and scare away or bleeds to death stuff. More or less you're taking quantity over quality. One weapon trap with various serrated discs or former invader weapons will dismember or kill multiple invaders before being jammed with corpses or running out of ammo, however it will take several stonefall traps to kill just one invader, generally.

You'll still get migrants, it'll just be a bit more difficult. Just export a ton of wealth and they should come anyway.

A lot of people are getting that with no/little deaths, probably a bug. I think i read someone that was guessing that it was assuming all the dwarf deaths in your historical area(Area things like engravings and whatnot are pulled from) died in your fortress, but i wouldn't know one way or the other myself.