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This probably needs a bit of backstory first. Skip down if you don't care.

Alright, so, after years of sitting nicely at exactly 100 dwarves(not even getting a "no migrants this season" message), i suddenly for no apparent reason started getting migrants again.

So, like any good fortress owner, i decided to use them as cannon fodder for dumb stuff, in this case exploring caverns i knew had a forgotten beast in it.

Anyway, first wave of 8 migrants had one okay guy out of the bunch who made it a few months or so and killed three crundles and a Reacher(that slowly killed the other 7 first) before starving to death, but he wasn't really impressive outside that so i let him starve. Then i remembered they went in the wrong cavern.

While destroying the wall into the right cavern, i got another 8, so i went ahead and sent them down there, as soon as i got the door up the FB decided to wait patiently outside it for them to get there.

They had a huge fight, and it actually looked like they might win, when a second FB spawned and the first one somehow went from being nearly all red to no injuries. 6 died in seconds, one lost a foot and rolled down a hill, and our hero, Lor Metulnish ended up about 10 tiles away somehow or another only missing a hand. The FBs went on and later got wiped out in 6 seconds by 30 hammer/axe/spear lords and only managed to kill someone's dog. Anyway, I had Lor continue to explore the caverns, so on, so forth. Right near the end, when she's starving and dehydrated and all that stuff, she has a run-in with 4 Troglodytes. I wrote her off here, but was shortly surprised to find her slowly but eventually kill all four of them with one hand, absolutely no military experience beyond the FB incident that cost her her hand, and no equipment beyond plain clothes.

At that point i decided to let her out and make her the only Elite Wrestler i ever have and maybe ever will use. But, obviously, having never used a wrestler i'm not entirely sure how to equip her. Armor was obvious, actually gave her a pair of artifact steel chain leggings just for the hell of it. I assume no weapon as well, but what about a shield?


Anyway, question is, due to her one-handedness, would she be better off not using a shield and being exposed to arrows, or using one and...well...i dunno...kicking?

Burying 6 Urists that felt the need to warn the Ettin that attacked. The first one got ripped to pieces and the other 5 got beaten to death with a pair of trousers and a cloak.

Humorously, the first 10 serrated steel disc trap shredded him instantly into about 5 pieces.

Just think, they could have just sat back a few seconds and everything would have been fine. Oh well, migrants are free, right?

Yeah, my last fort in that same world could make them too, but that one cant, and the one after it can't either for some odd reason.

Alright, so it was just military dumbness not equipping shield+spear then. Thanks

This only seems to happen to me sometimes.

In particular, i just made a fort that can make high boots, lost it, started up a new one right next to it, and this fort cannot make high boots.

Looking at the raws for the world in question isn't revealing anything in particular that would help at first glance either :/.

How can i fix this?

Quote from: AngleWyrm on August 26, 2010, 09:25:20 pm

Here's a thread on making a Danger Room to train up Shield skills; not sure if it's the OP on the topic.

Ah yep, that was the one thanks.  Biggest thing to watch out for is the possibility of losing kids and pets and random bystanders who decide to see what all them big tough dorfs are doing in that room and oh I seem to have a wooden spike protruding from my lung, think I'll go lie down now....

Eh, in my experience anything not wearing clothes gets shredded in seconds like babies and pets, however training weapons can't outright penetrate plain clothes, and at worst you'll see some bruises and that's about it. If you have a legendary armor/weaponsmith that happens to go check it out that is extremely slow to heal or something it might be a little issue, but honestly it's not been that big a deal. Oddly i had a legendary axedwarf get her baby and dog splattered all over the walls and was still ecstatic, so as long as you're keeping everyone decently happy outside military training there's no major danger.


If you're still worried about it though, you can set your squads to active, they'll go in there to train, then set them to inactive but forbid the door, they'll sit in there and do individual combat drills(and also starve to death if you don't let them out)

Couldn't you just throw a few small finished goods stockpiles in the museum of art and have a stonecrafter or something make some crap really quick?