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Always make sure your military dwarves have a non-military job skill, or else they will get unhappy thoughts when being taken off-duty.
Well, I think that's how it works at least.

Yes two things. First you should make sure your military dwarves have at least level 1 (novice?) in some non military skill. Second you need to make sure you have about a month of down time in their schedule or else they may get a "complained about long patrol duty lately" unhappy thought.

Also related, did you have this one dwarf on duty 24/7/12? because he was probably getting all sorts of unhappy thoughts from being thirsty and hungry all the time. IF you are going to have a military running right off the bat, it is best if you have two such dwarves so that they can relieve each other. You set their orders to only require 1 dwarf on duty at a time and that way they can alternate their time at their post. Using two dwarves right off you can also have two months where only one is on duty (alternate them) so each can have his month off.

It really isn't that hard at embark to give a military dwarf a skill. Especially if he is say an axe dwarf you can simply give him a point in woodcutting and that still gives you 9 points for his axe skill and w/e other skills you wish to give him.

I hate to be rude, but both of these guys are a bit off.


Keep your military dwarves on active duty at ALL TIMES. They can get an initial unhappy thought about long patrol duty and whatnot, however it will fade and they will be just fine training/fighting indefinitely, unless you give them a long station order, which will give them the thought again.

Once you've done that, taking them off duty will give them the "upset about being relieved from duty" unhappy thought.

Another thing is that while all dwarves love to fight, and get a happy thought from killing something, if an undead creature attacks them they also get a minor unhappy thought "attacked by the dead recently". Having an unhappy military dwarf fight is a great way to cheer them up except in that case, however using that +- effect to slowly inch your military dwarves towards the "doesn't really care about anything" status is kind of effective too.

The only other thing i can think of is that occasionally dwarves will get so into sparring that they won't stop for food or drink, typically an idle dwarf will bring them water well before an unhappy thought occurs, however if they're all busy and your dwarves don't have backpacks or waterskins/flasks, this could be happening quite a bit, getting them those will fix that.

Also station orders have to be monitored very closely, dwarves won't eat even if they have food with them while at a station, clearing the order will make them instanly eat/drink, then you can restation them while they're standing around.

Beyond burrows, you could just forbid all the webs and then reclaim ones that are okay, though i think in that case a burrow would probably be easier.

The biggest problem with looms harvesting silk is a problem with most workshops, actually. They treat straight down as one step, even if the staircase is 8 miles away. Totally normal to see a dwarf leaving their loom in the first cavern and going down to the second to collect webs.


That's always a problem for me because the first cavern isn;'t too hard to depopulate with cage traps, and the stuff up there just in general isn't so bad, but the second one is a bit different.

Yeah, huge designations are FPS eaters.

I'm beginning to think that smoothing and engraving are causing it too though, to a somewhat lesser extent.

Either that or huge designations cause a small amount of permenant damage to FPS. Not entirely sure which, but lately all i do is make a 40 bed dormitory, noble rooms, and a dining room, and the rest is just whatever. It helped for a good bit, though i was fiddling with so many different potentially FPS increasing ideas that i'm not really sure what worked and what didn't.

I'll generally either dig out a well and build a hospital around it, or the other way around.

build little 2x2 room with a bed next to a table next to the door. Traction bench also next to the bed on the side. door can easily be locked for getting rid of undesirables.

I know that I don't know if there has ever been a clown sickness that has NOT been fatal.

All mine always end up "random" in the sense that, of the 6-10 ways that it COULD kill my dwarves, one is always faster than the others. Sometimes their lungs bruise so heavily they suffocate in their own bodily fluids, sometimes they completely bleed out internally, sometimes they pass out from dizzyness and vomiting and get thrown into walls at 100000000 mph, sometimes the bruises are so bad they ALL get infected and it's just a matter of which infection gets the killing blow, and sometimes you just have a plain old massive brain bruise that shuts the thing down entirely.

Seriously, has anyone ever had a dwarf get clown sickness and live? I've worked out a near guarenteed method of killing them with raw military power, the only problem is half the time they survive to die after the fight, and sometimes it's fast enough to kill them during it. :/

Legendary + 5 (20) was always where skills stopped and I think you could likewise go five increments beyond superdwarvenly tough and perfectly agile and such. It may have been possible to set these values higher with utilities.

Now we have these entirely different 1000's size measurements so obviously the math has changed. Hammers are now clearly rather small-faced in order to dent or puncture armor so we might just not have the right kind of force transfer to send things flying.

Nonetheless if sounds like none of us hear have really gone in and extensively changed values for things around to figure out if there's an obvious threshold for knocking guys off their feet. Setting something ten times as strong and ten times the size of a dwarf against something goblin sized should probably have different results and we could at least rule out a few other factors in setting something flying.

So at what size can one creature pick up another an throw it?

Not sure. I know clowns can throw dwarves like rockets at walls, however i've never seen them throw a conscious military dwarf before. The only thing bigger than them is large sea life like whales and sharks and the like, which I have no experience with because getting an undead ocean is a pain and when i do get there the waves eat my FPS alive. Anyway, it makes me think there's some sort of stat check on it, meaning that there's really not going to be a way to work out any specific size requirement.

I think you should edit the turn list abit. Put those that haven't had a turn such as reaper and yourself ahead of those that already had 1 turn, such as myself and Xenos.

That is a good point, though i've had a turn as well. I'll change in in a sec.


From now on though, i'm probably just going to do it first come first serve, people requesting repeat turns will just fall into whatever order the requests happen in.

Or, we could just keep it a closed loop and just let those signed up now play over and over until we manage to screw up and lose meet our Fun quota.

 What do you guys think?