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I like it. Shame my screen only supports 16x16 tilesets. Go tell toady to go change the minimum 80 width thing so I can enjoy larger tiles! Blarge, I have having to press my face up against the screen to enjoy pheobus n ironhands sets.

Also I noticed that your ingame screenshots all look the same size to me. Only difference I can see is bitshifted issues with the 45x45 screenshot.

Not really sure if I quite understand, but Autohotkeys (C-C++ scripting language) is built for input-output handling, has COM and DLL support.. Reads key inputs and sends a range of key outputs, decent GUI support, tcp/ip capabilities.

Maybe DFhack can read DF's action buffer or whatever it uses to store keypresses(not sure it does buffer them directly though).

Anyhow, take a look at DFhack and Autohotkeys, either of those may be useful to you.

Wow, that makes a big difference Thanks Phoebus! (thanks thrin and beefmo also!)

Might I suggest a link to my thread so you don't have to run support for my mess? I wouldn't want to drain your efforts away from your own set.

Hmm.. yea, I should have thought of that.. I'm sure phoebus enjoyed doing it though, loving to spread around and make available the awesome DF styled pixelart for us DF-graphics lover+noob like me

Edit: In graphics_beefmo_png.txt

[MERCHANT:ELFS:6:4:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
Should be  [MERCHANT:ELFS:8:2:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
At least I think thats what the merchant tile should be. Maybe I should fire up adventure mode and see if any others need adjusting.

Also Phoebus: I had problems trying to zip the graphics raw.zip. Could be because im using winrar to zip(as .zip exension) but the DwarfFortressConfig app doesn't seem to like them when it tries to replace a saved games graphics raws. (No unit graphics tiles are loaded at all). What zip program you using?

Quote from: Ethicalfive on May 24, 2011, 12:51:35 pm

I also had a look at the unit graphics selector and noticed you didn't include the ironhand or mayday tilesets(that I could find) and no way to change the tileset from DwarfFortressConfig even if I manually added them(doesn't seem to be a place for them in the config directory).

I don't mean to be rude, but why would you expect him to include someone else's tileset in a utility he made for his own?

I don't mean to be rude, but learn to read what others type. Point out where I asked it to be included.

Unit graphic tiles are automatically scaled to the tileset tile size by the game itself.
So it's possible to used 18x18 Ironhand's unit graphics with a 16x16 tileset, and everything will show correctly as 16x16 tiles.

But tilesets are not so flexible.
Every tile in a tileset needs to have the same dimension as they are all included in the same 16x16 grid.
Also, the raws contains references to tiles, and those references are not the same in all tilesets. ( Creatures are not at the same locations, mineral walls are not categorized the same and are also located differently, etc. )
So to add different tilesets (Ironhand, Mayday, etc.) to the assembler would be a lot of work, it would require supporting a configuration system to support  the different graphic sets options for Mayday/Ironhand, it would require supporting different tile sizes, it would require splitting the Mayday/Ironhand tilesets into parts in the same way I did for my tileset, and it would require a way to synchronize specific tileset options with their raws.

Oh yea.. That makes perfect sense. Hence why there is no support for swapping the tilesets. *facepalms*

Quote from: Ethicalfive on May 24, 2011, 12:51:35 pm

One last thing, this time a request. Seeings as though now you can support multiple gfx sets, is there any chance that the beefmo set could be supported? I love his set, but too intimidated by raws etc to attempt adding them myself. (this is thrins beefmo repack and recent updates to it http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54399.msg2218513#msg2218513)

I will try to include beefmo's units in the next update.

Woot! Your the best phoebus!

You can add unit graphic options to the savegame manager through the /data/config/graphics/ directory.
You will need to create a new subdirectory then add a version.txt and raws.zip (preview.png is optional). Use the pre-included graphic packs as a reference.

(Yes, the util now uses zip files to store it's data.)

I noticed that. Very neat!

1. Phoebus has the intro disabled by default (to enable, change [INTRO:NO] to [INTRO:YES] in \data\init\init.txt )

2. yes, DF's gfx are designed in many cases to share the same tile so we have to sacrifice some legibility  for stuff like kick ass floors(atleast until there is a gfx update or the TTF code works better)

Just download the prepackaged version of pheobus's pack http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2431

No screwing around with config files or raws or whatever else needed. Just run and enjoy.

I'm still too intimidated to try getting a graphics+tileset into a stock verson of DF.

Well hey, I guess I should specify a little better. I can live with the interface, but it scares off alot of people from even bothering. That has to say somthing. I do enjoy playing games that friends can enjoy with me, even single player games and this leaves a sour taste in my mouth when everyone I know refuses to touch it.

I also wouldn't compare it to nethack, because nethack is much simpler, dealing with only one entity(yourself) with far less nested menus.

Closest example I can think of where hotkeys helps streamline workflow is something like blender. But then again, blender also uses all three mouse buttons in combination with the hotkeys aswell as having a graphical UI where 99% of the hotkey features can be accessed.

Still, this is about 'is this a clone?' thread, not a debate about the DF interface. Guess I should have left any mention of DF's interface out of this, seeings it gets so many people so worked up.

DwarvesH - Suggestion for when you asked how would we like things done differently. Build walls how you would dig! 10x10 DF build area limit makes for time consuming constructions!