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Hey, just stumbled apon this 'clone' from over on the stonesense thread.

There is no procedurely generated world in this game. I think this singular reason sets DF and DwarvesH apart. I see a villiage/fortress simulator, but not a world one.

I really love DF. However, I freaking hate it's interface. Everyone i've ever recommended DF to has outright rejected playing it is because of the interface (and these are hardcore ASCII roguelike players to boot!)

So I say this competition is a good thing. Maybe toady will get inspired by DwarvesH's stunning interface enough to finally get around to implement something worthy of his masterpiece. If not, DwarvesH should be welcome to earn money from users that are not even going to bother playing DF in the first place. If you don't accomodate the users, they'll go elsewhere. Hell, i'll donate to DwarvesH if it's any good(im an avid DF donator BTW, as should everyone else on this forum).

One thing that should be changed in dwarvesH ASAP though is the names of objects and plants. That's going to annoy alot of DF players. I think an evening on plugging in your own names would do the project alot of good and personally I think it'd be alot of fun.

*note* Please lets not start a debate about the merits of DF not supporting a half decent interface yet. I've read all the reasons before. Theres plenty of threads on the subject and i've read most of them, so not really anything new can be added by by getting into one of those debates again.

Are 'secrets' the start of a spell type system?? Man, spells would be pretty cool in a system where ancient secrets are passed down and eventually obtainable by the adventurer. I could see necromancy as a player 'secret' split into a couple things. Proficency with the secret learned and parts of the secret you know.

Quote from: Ethicalfive on May 06, 2011, 08:22:30 am

Gold plated support! Wish that you could accept donations for your work!

Be careful what you wish for!

Nice one! Transfering some money into paypal account now... Takes 3-5 working days to clear though :/ Expect a dontation after it clears

I wonder how toady would feel about some kind of donation drive to add some better graphical support. I mean, right now we have two very talented pixel artists and it would be a shame to loose you guys before he gets around to making those updates! Imagine the possibilties with RGB support and dedicated tiles(and other features im probably not aware are needed/requested).

Gold plated support! Wish that you could accept donations for your work!

Oh how i've missed the gold plated set (although your set has always been fairly similar). Would you be able to add in the gold plated walls as an option?

Wow, you've really opened up doors with your tileset assembler. Custom tilesets without having to wrap your brain around DF's internal workings!

Regarding the future bloat implementation below, and seeings that ghosts are now getting attention from you, can we expect to see some ghost based lever pulling soon?

Also are there any plans to have ghosts be active AND invisable some of the time, so then when poltergeist type activities occur, it would add some mystery to how those events actually happened? Adventure mode with ghosts could be quite creepy and cool if instead of seeing the ghost every time, you instead see a chair slide accross the floor, or get a message saying you felt a cold shiver(ghost passing through you/trying to interact with you)

# Bloat21, VARIOUS GHOST IDEAS, (Future): Blame the lever puller for flooded dungeon, make a ghost constantly pull the lever. Save relationships with various entities and have ghosts react to entity members as they would in life possibly. Ghosts can show you their bodies. Ghosts can pretend to do their old jobs. Ghost appearance can depend on how they died. Could force the adventurer to interact with ghosts to access now-secret parts of the fortress (could also use writings and legends for this). It can keep outposts that it normally throws away for fun little ghost stories. If the dwarves hate the elves, the ghosts could guide the adventurer to a poisoned goblet or insultingly engraved object to bring back to the elves, and they could lie to the player about it.

Varied is nicer IMO.

I heard that mono can be a real pain. There must be some script around that'd port over your .net gui without much hassle though. Could be a !fun! learning experience anyhow.

I noticed that with the introduction of the new floor/grass tiles, that the next level down tiles(the dark ones with the dots in the middle that arn't sky) became darker, any chance they could be brightened back up?

Criptfeind, you don't have to like or agree with my posts, but don't go putting words in my mouth through forgery. Atleast you didn't try to palm your 'assessment' off as what I wrote this time.

For the record though, im not American, because like you said yourself, "there are more then Americans on this thread". So no, I never said I was happy, even though relief and happiness are 2 seperate things.

Do not blame people for enjoying his death. Blame him for being the sorta guy who's death is enjoyable.

Enjoying the death of another is to many an unwholesome notion, so i'd probably hold off on accusing me of mental health issues.

Americans can now sigh a relief that they put the monster they created down finally.

I find it pretty morbid how many people are getting pleasure out of death. Sure he was a bad guy, but noone should ever take pleasure in anothers death. Makes me respect Americans even less than I already do.