Bay 12 Games Forum

Think yourself lucky. I've been politely asked to NOT roleplay out the things my character does. Or at least not to roleplay it to our enemies. Just assume that if there is a mention of the Cat's Arrows injuring another noble, that I would have tried to fit the word "tonker" into my regards letter to them.

Looking at the numbers, I don't think Morek can actually defeat us, or hold onto Nifel. Between a decent morale boost at the pub, some fresh men, a quick repair and not having to face the seige engines again, I think Morek flupped this one

Woohoo! I made it through the battle unscathed. I didn't do much, just shot peasants really, but still.

Lost 3/4 of my unit (wounded/dead) and the whimps ran off. I mean, come on. We still had 8 guys left. Not to mention the pinpoint testicular aim of Graham himself. Damn whimpy peasants.

Oh well. Now to do it all again tomorrow. Poor Morek, they took a pretty bad kicking in all this. They probably won't get to win this one afterall. Which means we just have to destroy Libero's army in a few turns and we'll all be saved.

Which might be a little harder to do than to say.........

It used to happen more in earlier versions, I've been stuffing around with other games too much recently to know how much it happens now. Maybe I was luck/unlucky. But yeah, it did save me a few times early on in my characters.

"Oh my god, I'm going to die. I know....... I'll shoot Santa. That always saves me."

It used to work a lot. I think I've only had one crash from it in the new version, and I forget what the circumstances were. Maybe I got better and don't need cheesy-crash-saves as much. But I did do it on purpose quite a few times when I started playing Prospector,

When in doubt, shoot Santa. Or chaos penguins. They save your arse sometimes.

To tell you the truth, I'm suprised more bay12'ers aren't getting in on this. There's donk loads of troops waiting to be hired in the capital. I tend to think we've been under-estimated.

More nobles=more troops to be hired. Cash is available for newbies.

Join in the !fun! everyone. You'll probably start in Nifel or Nifelheim. A ring of deadly steel that menaces with spikes of awesome to make all dwarves everywhere proud. We've got the cash, the troops and the support to win this (or bloody the empires attacking us beyond compare). All we need is more nobles.

Don't be put off with introductory messages or actual roleplaying. Start in Dwilight, start in Summerdale, hire some troops and stand in Nifel. We don't put the drawbridge up. We like the enemies coming into our archer's range.

If you've ever been on the end of a hopeless undead and goblin seige (it's hard to tell which one Morek or Libero are sometimes), then give it a burl for the next week. You won't be sorry starting out a game of Battlemaster in these circumstances.

Battlemaster: It ain't boring in Summerdale right now. Losing is Fun! So is winning a hopeless seige. There ain't no tantrum spirals for people that just want to fight.

The price and ease-of-use would have to be drastically improved to seriously make a dent in the market. No one would do such a thing if they couldn't make a dollar out of it on the side. Spending $2000 dollars on a basic setup, gaining the technical skills required and then making the 3D models required for printing out armies is somewhat beyond the investment of time/effort that the average gamer will undertake for a simple boardgame. This is in a market where sitting down and modelling your army for weeks is common practice. Devoting entire rooms to game models isn't unheard of. Having groups all pitch in cash for short-lived, somewhat pointless projects happens on a fairly regular basis. So why isn't it common practice already?

Maybe in the future. Maybe. You won't be able to use them in GW stores/tournaments or anything though, which is a turn off for some.

I looked quite heavily into 3D printing a while ago as a cheap way of rapid prototyping various things that were on my mind at the time. Of course I thought of how easy it would be to make figurines (and money) off something I wanted to use anyway. It's not quite as easy, sophisticated or low cost as it might appear.

Maybe in the future. But then again, most things in the future will be easy, cool and cheap. They always are in the future.

The newer versions seem a lot better than the old. No more "invincible, confused captain is your saviour again" sort of stuff.

But yeah, there's crashes from time to time. It usually crashes the game so you can just restart from where you left off, before landing on the planet. But it's not a bad idea to keep a backup save for safety. It's not savescum abuse if it's used for fixing up "features" in the game.

And seriously, don't fire weapons off the north or south pole of a planet. It's a random thing, but it is my most common cause of crashes.

While Summerdale's fall is sort of a given, it will be a fairly bloody given for the attackers. When you have the entire strength of a realm concentrated and turtling, it's probably going to cost a fair few men to take the place apart.

The point of this is, who will take the losses? Morek or Libero? And then what? Two expansionist empires with their main forces beside each other. Who took the losses, who is looking weak now? Well, obviously Summerdale, but who else? Religion is a fine thing, treaties and alliances are based upon it. But I think that the peninsula is still going to be quite an interesting area with the land grab and having three large, strong empires now butting up against each other.

Final stages of WWII in Europe kind of interesting. Peace is great, but so's cold war........

After over 15 years of playing WH/WH40k I'm still a crappy painter. But I'm suprisingly good at modelling (in a rough and ready way). Do you know what got me good at modelling? GWs price structure.

I actually used to like the meta-game of working out what could be modelled easily into another troop type with a few simple conversions. Chaos Terminators ended up being normal space marines with big shoulder pads, spikes and some random weapons cobbled together. Two full squads for the price of a normal box. Chaos knights were Imperial knights with gubbins attached and the necessary amount of spikes. Chaos spawn were always free. Screamers ended up being made out of 40mm bases, melted "just so".

I used to love working out what I could get for my dollars out of something else. It had to have a purpose, it had to look cool, it was sort of "the game behind the game" for me. I actually think I was the first person that posted on Warseer how good BfSP was for Chaos Dwarves. A 1200-1400 point army for $80, and it was even slightly effective. It sort of led on to a bit of a CD revival, with people doing all kinds of stunning conversions out of the cheapest figures (per dollar) that you could buy. I secretly think that the posts based around that were the reason GW put CD on the back-burner indefinately. Yep, I'm a bastard....... They don't seem to realize how many BfSP sets that they sold due to people converting the hell out of them. They really should have just released an armybook and a modelling/conversion guide and be done with it. Could have earnt quite a bit of dosh selling figures from the rest of the range without having to sculpt a thing themselves.

To tell you the truth, I think I've only ever bought 2 WH warmachines in my life. One pump wagon and one spearchukka. They were only there to prove the legitimacy of my other 3-5 of them. Sprue based engines of death that had more character and looked cooler than anything GW could produce. BOs were heavily converted boyz, in 6th edition, which all of a sudden fitted in perfectly with 7th edition rules. Netters and fanatics were converted BfSP NGs. Not to mention the ninja goblins. Mork praise the ninja goblins, they were the most fun modelling project I ever did.

I guess GWs pricing policies have done some good things for the game. It's made us all into awesome modellers. As a 12yr old (with a job) the prices were too high. As a 25yr old (with a job, paying 20x what the kiddy job did, maybe more) they were still too high. They're too high now and I need more figures for a decent army. But damn did I get good with a craft knife, a lighter and some super-glue in the meantime.

And they shall know no proxies..........