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I thought constructions couldn't burn in this version.

Anyway, if my adventurer is ever killed by someone who I'm not supposed to kill for a mission I'll just chop off all their limbs.

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Also, I'd think having both eyes intact helps as well...

has the !!SCIENCE!! been done yet?

Actually, it seems all losing both eyes does is reduce you field of "vision" to a 3x3 square.

Here's one of my own questions: does throwing a heavier object make the relevant stats (strength, agility, toughness, willpower, focus, spatial sense, kinesthetic sense) increase faster? For that matter does moving around with a bunch of heavy crap make strength increase faster than carrying nothing?

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1. No, nothing you trade has to be in your hands, you can use it even if it's in your backpack.

2. You can easily tell which items you did and did not purchase by looking for which items don't have $ around their name.
OK, I got that advice wrong: what I said only works for exchanging silver and copper pieces for gold ones.

3. I don't know if selling a backpack sells the coins inside it as well (I know it sells all the other items in there), but if it doesn't you can just grab the coins out of the backpack like anything else.

Yes, the interface is unrefined, but the game is still in alpha (the latest version was still only .31.18). I'm sure a lot of what you're asking can be found in some if mods if you look around.

Adventure mode, where shopkeepers will pay for rocks you picked up off their floor.

Quote from: niggy on January 09, 2011, 04:33:36 pm

Adventure mode, the only game where a scratch on your toe means instant doom.

No, it means slow, eventual doom from infection.  A broken toe, however...

No, it can lead to passes out, which won't itself kill you but will leave you completely defenseless.

Grabbing an opponent with wrestling only prevents them from dodging into another tile unless they can break the hold. How likely an attack made on a particular body-part is to connect and how solid a hit it would likely be is random, though attacks overall become more likely to connect and hit directly depending on the abilities of you and your opponent.

Things that affect accuracy and damage can be split into four categories: attributes, skills, weapon, and armor.

Attributes: Which attributes are relevant depends on what attack you're using and whether your opponent counters by dodging, blocking, or parrying. Consult this for more information (using a weapon to parry assumably uses the same attribute as attacking with it).

Skills:
Fighter makes melee attacks easier to land and all attacks easier to dodge, block, or parry (I'm not sure if it affects damage).
Skill with a melee weapon makes it easier to land an attack, parry an attack, and probably do more damage with that weapon.
Skill with a ranged weapon makes projectiles from that weapon more accurate, but I don't think it makes them do more damage and I'm sure it doesn't affect use of it to parry or bludgeon (that's decided by a skill for a different weapon).
Shield-user makes blocking with a shield more likely, but use of it as a melee weapon depends on the Misc. Object User skill.
Dodger makes you more likely to move into another tile to avoid an attack (which can sometimes leads to falling off a ledge).

Weapon: Weapon quality affects chances of an attack hitting and damage. Not sure if it's carried over, but in 40d each quality level had a "roll" modification .2 higher than the last (so well-crafted is 20% more accurate and damaging than no quality, finely-crafted is 40% more, and so on until you have a masterful weapon twice as accurate and damaging as a regular one) and Toady has stated Masterful still has a 2 modified and artifacts have a 3 modifier.

The only effect weapon material has on accuracy is deciding the weight which can affect how easy a weapon is to use.
The effect of material on damage is rather ridiculously complicated but can be simplified to "you wanted hard edged weapons and heavy blunt weapon".

For ranged weapons, weapon material is irrelevant to launching projectiles, only the weapon quality affects accuracy while ammo material and quality affects damage.

I know a shield's ability to block it not affected by material (except maybe a greater weight making it harder to use) but I don't know if shield quality is taken into account.

Armor: quality affects armor deflection chance the same way it modifies weapon accuracy and damage.

The effect of material on armor is also insanely complicated but can be simplified to "harder is better".

Armor has no effect on accuracy, just damage.

@Interesting (if I didn't list it, I don't know the answer):

2. Material only affects item quality in that it affects which skills you can use to create that item (for instance, a Bowyer can make crossbows only from wood while a Weapon smith can make them only from metal, and at the same skill level Bowyers make better crossbows).
2A.Yes, weight is a significant factor in how much damage an fired ammunition does. The densest materials make the best ammo. Keep in mind though, even the densest wood (Glumprong, 1.250g/cm^3) is only a fraction of the weight of the lightest metal you can make ammo out of besides Adamatine (Iron or Steel, 7.280g/cm^3). I'm not sure what effect hardness has.

3. You can find more than you ever wanted to know about stone on the wiki. As for best wood and bone, I think all bones are functionally identical and the only factor separating different kinds of wood is density.

4A. They're something that has full value in any shop, as opposed to money, which only has full value in the civilization it's made by (anywhere else they'll only pay for the material it's made from).
4B. There's no magic at all in DF right now, and won't be for quite a while.
4C. Yes, clothing can block attacks like armor does but isn't nearly as good at it; generally cloth will only protect from small animal scratches. Leather is better, but still nowhere near as affective as metal. For more details see this page.

5. Bags are meant for storage and hauling not personal toting, the same for barrels and chest. You're right that you can't equip bags, only backpacks, quivers, and waterskins.

6. and 7. You can have multiple backpacks (either worn or within other backpacks), but it's not at all necessary: there's no limit to how much stuff you pick up off the ground you can fit in one, only to how much you can put in there from your hands (which no one really understands), which can be bypassed by simply dropping an item on the ground and picking up when your hands are full. And I guess you can fill a barrel with water (hit 'I' while next to some water and select the barrel), but there's not much point now in this version since hunger and thirst have been disabled.

9. Just make an offer ridiculous unreasonable in your favor (if you offer him anything ask for all his money even if you're asking for items more valuable than what you're trading, if you're only buying from him ask for everything for 1) and he'll counter with the minimum value you can pay.

10. Yes, there are. If you have any questions that page didn't answer, ask someone else because I don't know much about those.

11. I don't think being covered in a material affects you unless it's poisonous, besides maybe weighing you down a very small amount. You can wash off yourself and all your gear by just swimming in some water for a few tiles (so long as you a good enough swimmer not to drown) and the water covering will eventually evaporate.

12. If their inventory is empty they get new items the second you sleep, wait with the sleep menu, or use quick-travel, though they never seem to get new money.
As far as I know shops are never robbed by anyone but adventurers.
I'm not sure if stuff you leave there remains your property, but I'm sure no one else will take it because NPCs never pick up items in this version.

13. No, you can't stack items at this point. The best solution is just to buy as many items as possible, exit the trade menu, pick them up, and then resell them.

Worse than that, they'll continue to stand at a distance from all the fighting as if they could still do anything, serving no purpose but to fill up a party space, giving you less spaces for useful companions and making ambushers bigger.

Oh, I thought you were talking about things that are made from humans, or bodyparts at least.

My Demon Queen is currently wearing a human skin backpack, a full suit of human bone armour and has just lashed someone slowly to death with a human gut whip... Kind of ironic really, the guts actually came FROM the person she just whipped to death.

Damn, whoever made that must have been fast.

Metal, medal same thing. Also I found a keep with no exit, the door led to a 1 z level drop.

In a previous version I found a Mountain Hall whose walls wen up a half dozen z-levels and had no doors