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Umm, actually, yeah, see this one:



Still, I wonder what it was doing there. Sweden was not a participant in WWI either.

edit: I've personally all but given up on analysing what Kremlin says or doesnt say.

Its a midget sub; definitely not WW2 era. From the 1980s at most. We need better pics to be able to ID it...

Yeah there could be/should be separate CL lines. Even if they'd need to skip tiers. I want the Agano...

Another idea could be a "seaplane cruiser" line combining cruiser and CV properties to incorporate some more historical ships. Akitshushima, Chitose/Nisshin/Chioyda, Agano class, Chikuma, converted after battle damage Mogami, maybe even the hybrid BBs. edit: and of course the Ōydo too!


To me the game runs much smoother than WoT; the engine is clearly superior. Theres no stuttering or freezes whatsoever.

Greece + China --> OMX Helsinki has fallen ~4% during the last week, although climbed a bit today. I need to monitor my few stocks' prices now more often.

In the meanwhile Russia is very very super angry about Finland not letting 6 people, who happen to be on the EU sanctions black list and are not allowed to enter EU, of the dozen-ish people Russia had assigned to its party participating in OSCE's council meeting in Helsinki. Russia has now canceled its participation. Russia considers this "an openly hostile act" as it was put to the Finnish ambassador in Moscow, Himanen, by Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs yesterday.

edit: I guess it would have been an impossibility to just use people who are allowed to travel to EU... But then again Russia has been long reluctant to participate in negotiations and making decisions in basically any international organizations. Divide and conquer I suppose; much more comfortable to just directly influence convenient targets partners.

I couldn't find the actual debt % but from 1945 onwards in just 8 years Finland had an additional "debt" of about 70-ish % of GDP in war reparations to USSR, while rebuilding country and relocating/building new homes to 1/4 of the population(refugees from lost territories). While still paying back old debts to the US mainly. No haircuts or Marshall Plan either. That hurt a lot but what helped afterwards was that the reparations were paid in material, machines and other physical products and the exports of those to the USSR kept going with little to no competition for decades after. The centralized program to pay the reparations founded many nowadays large companies (most no longer state-owned) and expanded areas of industry that probably would not have happened in similar scale otherwise. By 80s it was the USSR that was in debt.

A global empire has nothing to do with Europe. In fact, Europe exists outside reality. Not to mention OUR political leaders are lovers of peace and of the working class, and definitely not deceptive. Nor are they in a rush to join NATO, which is definitely not run by the US.

Enough irony to give me poisoning.

Interesting how its possible to consider the very nations that share EU and its monetary union membership with us our allies in that context but minions of evil warmongering USA as NATO members. Not that its atypical around here...

Sure it doesn't. It just happens that the nation currently being proactive in doing evil shit happens to be Russia.

Similarly, most of us probably do condemn Iraqi Freedom(although it wasn't an annexation but blowing things up to get oil and to sell arms, concrete and hospital equipment afterwards while the people who decided on things were either major stock holders of Locheed-Martin and Raytheon at least or were otherwise greedy basterds), or China assimilating Tibet/Xinjiang(happening right now) etc. We have discussed this before. Someone else having done shit before doesnt make it right or acceptable for anyone else to do more of it.

I wonder how Finno-Ugric languages do in Russia that totally isnt russifying the peoples with their own distinctive cultures that speak those languages? Oh yeah, soon theres none that speaks them, many only have speakers in the thousands at most and most of them are 50 years old or older.