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My favorite (which I think I've told a million times) is the great blind cave ogre rebellion of Wrungknives.

Wrungknives was my fort two versions ago, it was an attempt at an above ground challenge (I ended up setting up a hunting ground and noble quarter in the cavern) a city and a gateless challenge. It succeeded enormously and grew to cover the entire surface of the embark with a red clay sprawl of a city, complete with three pyramids over the holes where I tried (and twice failed) to pierce the aqueduct.

My hunting ground was also a success, I played around with the raws and made all the cavern creatures tameable. Somehow or other, the only successful breeding program ended up being the blind cave ogres. I bred them until my animal population hit the caps. My duke had two personal blind cave ogre bodyguards, as did almost every crucial dwarf in the sprawling, 50 year old city of Wrungknives.

One day, I decided to try the dfhack function to switch from dfmode to adventure mode and see my city from an adventurer's perspective, without it being abandoned and empty of friendly life.

The moment I did so, switching to my finest warrior, every last cave ogre in the fortress went hostile.

This was probably my favorite adventure mode session ever. I ran wildly through my sprawling city, periodically running into a friendly dwarf under attack my a cave ogre and having to help them. I told my self I was supposed to rescue the duke, but I spotted the duke exactly twice, once when he help me by one-shotting a cave ogre with his crossbow, and once when he ran past me on the floor above, probably towards combat.

I ended up dying to an unlucky dodge, but it was a really fun and highly unexpected and unscripted turn of events before that.

The main advantage of this bridge exploit is that it can be selectively turned into a permeable barrier at any time.

!!!!invention!!!!

I love when the forum has a scientific breakthrough!

This is a big development.  Not only does this optimize magma mines nicely, but it opens amazing possibilities for freezing traps.

If you can activate the flow of water selectively you can freeze discrete, chosen  squares: targeted frost death, instead of the good-old fill-the-whole-tunnel-with-ice-and-send-in-the-miners.

Quote from: EnigmaticHat on December 06, 2013, 01:54:18 pm

Quote from: BFEL on December 06, 2013, 01:41:27 pm

For Croatia guy, to manage your daughter being hated find all the vassals and courtiers that will hate her, and imprison them. Every single one.

Then, when you die and she is queen, have her release all of them. BAM! Instant adoration.

Of course that can backfire if your current guy takes a longer time to die then expected, but hey, you can probably handle it!

Am I the only one who considers this a massive exploit?

Strikes me as an excellently Machiavellian way of securing your heir's future.  If you're an elderly ruler who knows they're likely to die in the near future, presumably 'the greater good' might drive you to do something like that.  Hell, that's basically what's happening in the metagame anyway. 

Actually, I think that's why I like CKII so much.  The metagame motivation of "my people must survive" is pretty well aligned to what (I assume) the in-game character motivations are likely to be (well, the way I RP them, anyway!)

I feel the same: I realized the game had warped me when I was watching Disney's Aladdin and I found myself deeply critical of the love/misalliance between Jasmine and Aladdin: it is hard enough to hold together a kingdom with the most brilliant daughter-heir, but to let her marry a commoner without particularly good stats and low intrigue? I can almost hear the vassals plotting.

Shouldn't a berserk dwarf be barred from migrating? Going berserk expels them from your civilisation, and afaik only civ members can migrate. Could have been a deeply miserable dwarf who went bonkers practically upon entering the map.

Dwarfs from an older fort migrate with the basic mood they had when the last fort was abandoned (even if they migrate five years later - "offload" stasis prevents happy/unhappy thoughts from timing out); embarking on a world where you recently abandoned a fort in the middle of a tantrum spiral or loyalty cascade can lead to much fun. Migrants will also bring along contaminants they acquired in the old place, like syndrome dust or evil rain residue.

The dwarves show up not-yet-berserk, but terribly unhappy. Then they go berserk.

This has nice applications, actually, I remember starting a dojo monastery fort and creating 2-3 parties of martial arts monks, abandoning and restarting. In the end I had a solid monk population appearing amongst every migrant wave.

Quote from: smjjames on November 25, 2013, 03:23:36 pm

Burrowing them won't help because they automatically* know when others have better stuff.

*i guess it would would be word of mouth, overhearing gossip, etc.

Dwarves are a hivemind. They reproduce via spores.

My experience (granted not scientific) seems to confirm this.

My current fort had major issues when the queen and consort arrived suddenly and the queen really, *really* didn't like the fancy necromancer Duke quarters which she had never seen.  I solved it by giving her the necromancer's throne room, while giving the necromancer a small chamber until the royal throne room (and necessary machinery) was ready. 

I have had trouble catching them as they run away and a different one steals the beer. But back to the dog, why did the gnomes pull its teeth out? And why wasn't I told?

Check the combat logs, I bet the dog fight happened long ago and I bet a dwarf did the deed.

Quote from: thegoatgod_pan on November 25, 2013, 02:21:59 pm

I am still pissed I bought this. I did my research before buying it, but somehow managed to miss (perhaps because it is nowhere advertised and only appears in complaints) the whole time progression system. I feel like it turns what is supposed to be a sandbox into a frustrating arcade game. I can spend hours raiding and building a base, log out, come back and find everything gone and half the team dead.

Why did I bother spending hours  raiding and building the base? Does the game reward any choice you make? Are you even making choices?

There is a mod that lets you control the time based shenanigans, if it interests you in anyway.

Really? I didn't think of the mods because the developers are so insistent on the feature being structural. Do you happen to remember the name of the particular mod? Is it "Zombie Standard time"?