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« on: January 17, 2013, 11:29:45 pm »
Yeah I probably should have indicated that better. It is a possibility though.
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Neither are are men. To say that both men and women are oppressed is silly, because that's everyone. Oppression requires an oppressor. If everyone is in the same situation, then what they're going through isn't oppression. I hate to try and argue definitions, but i think this is a little too fundamental. It's an ordering of society with a top and a bottom, not even sides.Why? Not all men are part of the systems in place that oppress women, and those are the very things that force men into their own set of gender stereotypes. I mean, I can tell you recognize this, so I don't know what the problem with calling it oppression is. Anyone who wants something other than what society deems appropriate is oppressed by it, no matter what their sexual identity.
Mens Rights people are incredibly reactionary in most instances, and tend to be cut from the same cloth as the worst feminists. The idea should be pretty dumb, anyway - as dumb as starting a "bisexual rights movement" would have been. The fact that feminismBasically, but I didn't want to say it while defending feminism because that would look a bit biased. Obviously, as a man, I have a vested interest in Men's Rights issues, but the fact that so often one of their core positions is that feminism has overshot its goals is while I call myself a feminist and not a Men's Rights Activist, even though properly they are one in the same.
There are no sides. And as long as the Feminist movement insists on exclusionary language and labels, fighting the true fight is going to be difficult. But yeah, there are many people in the movement that can see this is the way forward, and I'm hoping that is where things will end up.You're right, but the issue has been stratified so that it appears that there are sides, or possibly that there actually are sides working at cross purposes to the same ultimate goals. And feminists can be exclusionary, I've had a few women (and even one man) tell me that I shouldn't call myself a feminist. I understand their concerns, but I find the prospect more than a bit sexist. It's true that I'll never understand a woman's perspective, but feminism needs perspectives from both sides of the aisle if it's going to accomplish anything.
I don't. And while they claim to, traditionally feminism has NOT been concerned with the plight of all women. Many second wave feminists pushed for brand new forms of oppression and forced conformance, and many women are opposed to the feminist movement as a whole threatening to disrupt the life they live. I think the feminists are still in the right, at least overall, but there will always be people that feel that they lose when others benefit, or who have desired positions that they lose when the ground shifts under their feet.Second-wave feminism was full of a number of problems, I think, most obviously, installing women into the systems of oppression rather than dismantling or reforming them. It's also responsible for a number of styles of thought that influence public perception of feminism today. I think they accomplished some important things, but you're right, they also had a very narrow definition of femininity and a very narrow set of goals and I think in a lot of ways feminism of the last twenty years has been a reaction to that. And if you mean women who prefer the way things are now, yeah, second-wave feminism was strongly against them, but I don't see modern feminism as really all that upsetting to the status quo, and personally, I would like to see room for all people to live how they want. If someone wants to conform to older models of femininity they should be able to, be they male or female, as long as it's a genuine choice and society is able to recognize that.