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Quote from: Vehudur on October 07, 2010, 01:10:07 am

I doubt you'll end up with the same map because I used pre-genned terrain, but...

Seeds:

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[SEED:593975651]
[HISTORY_SEED:1247353185]
[NAME_SEED:1567681258]
[CREATURE_SEED:1659002156]
[DIM:257:257]

And also, I changed these, but I'm not sure what impact they'll have on reproducing it.

[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:20]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:20]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:10]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:10]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:10]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:10]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:10]

Let me know how it works for you.  This delicious region was on the far right side of the map, just under half way up, in a little valley tucked in the mountain range.   If you don't have this, it probably didn't gen the same.

If you use the "Export Local Image" function on the Options(escape) menu, one of the files created will be the world gen parameters as used by DF to generate the world, including anything from PerfectWorld or the World Painter (I assume one of these is what you mean by "Pre-genned"), in which case the only cause of disrepancies in the world generated would be if you've modded your raws for things like the Entity_default.txt (strangely, changing which portions of the dictionary are available to your civ for names & such affects geography).

Wait, so you want the entire region gen file?

I have not modified the Entity_default.txt, but I do have custom rock layers, which probably has the same effect...

I doubt you'll end up with the same map because I used pre-genned terrain, but...

Seeds:

I've actually noticed fewer aquifers, so I actually modded some rock layers that normally don't have aquifers to have aquifers.

I'll see what I can do, but I've never used any of that stuff before, so I'd probably screw it up the first few times.

Also, I fail at looking at biomes.  It's not swamp, I got that mixed up.  It's burning fucking desert.  But it still has an aquifer.

And flux stone of two types!  But one is a custom rock of mine, so that doesn't count.  The other is marble.

Pics or it didn't happen.  Also... world gen seeds if you're using .31.16.  Cause other people love cliff cities too, y'know.

Yes, I'm using .16, but it's a pre-gen terrain / volcanism map, so you'd need the whole damn file (seeds included, ofc)

Also, "Pics or it didn't happen" is quite annoying.  But I'll see what I can do.

So I'm embarking on a new site...   this one is a bit unusual.

4x4 embark.

There's a small area of flat ground on the north west end.  This is the lowest.  It's temperate freshwater swamp, with an aquifer. 

It then climbs up 115 z-levels (yes, that's right, 115 - it goes from Z105 to Z220) 64 because I embarked to the west slightly, up to a volcanic vent in the south east corner.*

I'm not sure what to build here.  Obviously, it's going to be some sort of cliff city.  There's barely enough room for the wagon here.

Also, there are no humans.  They were wiped out in world gen.  Only Elves, Dwarves and gobbos.  Oh, and gobbos there are!  My embark has 6 gobbo keeps within 20 region-level tiles.

*I love mods, told me this without me needing to embark, and then got these numbers wrong.  The actual base level is 148, but the rest is true - including the heights of the cliffs.

Quote from: Lord Darkstar on October 06, 2010, 06:23:21 pm

Quote from: Hyndis on October 06, 2010, 10:57:05 am

Geothermal power is amazing and nearly limitless. All you do is dig a deep pit, pour water into that pit, and then when the water turns into steam use the steam to run turbines.

Limitless energy anywhere on the planet. It runs day and night, generates no pollution at all, and only requires a source of water to run. You can recycle most of the water as well. Once it runs through the turbine let the steam condense and cool back into water, then pump the water underground again.

I'm still unsure why geothermal is not used more often.

Earthquakes.

When you pump extra water down into the rock like that, you get a lot of quakes. Do that near a major fault, and the worry is that it will trigger a MAJOR eruption, as the water is reducing the friction between the plates, which is what is preventing another quake.

Federal goverment won't even allow companies in the US to do this near major faults or cities or "Other important areas or structures" now.

What is allowed is to drill a few hundred feet down, and run a tube down and back. Cold water pumped through that tube will return very warm in most places of the US. Better than solar heated water.

This is probabilty the reason the Russians dug that deepest hole in the world in Kamchatka, far from human inhabitation... but wait. Kamchatka is on a fault....

This whole "No, you can't, you might cause an earthquake" idea is stupid.  The probability of a large quake is very small, and even if you did, the earthquake would be weaker than if it overcame the stress on its own.