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The solution I'll go for after the incoming update is to both add in diplomats/trade representatives, and tweak the elf ethics so they'll be seriously freaked out and appalled by lying and dishonesty. (Which has precedent, as legendary fae folk could never tell a direct lie or break the specific letter of a vow, as one of their several weaknesses.)

I'm not sure how I'd do this.

Help...  I have cave crocodiles in the plumbing!  It's fine, except occasionally they pop out to eat someone.

Giving each noble their own well in their bedroom is turning out to have been quite an interesting choice.  Of greater concern is the fact that my legendary weaponsmith is missing.

So I made a few minor mods to elves to make them less of cannonfodder as well.   Like removing their limits on weapons and armor...

So, now I could have an elven axelord in steel.

Oh shit, what have I gotten myself into now?

Deforesting the map won't actually piss them off unless they've made a tree cutting limit with you. They only do this once they start sending diplomats, which doesn't actually happen in an unmodded game (and in a modded game happens only after you have a baron or higher noble). Killing their diplomats, or allowing them to die, actually pisses them off even more, but they never send diplomats in an unmodded game.

Unfortunately, you can't mod in diplomats after world generation is complete, though IIRC Quietust was working on a way to rectify that in DFHack.

Your only recourses at this point are to offer them wood products, seize their goods, and kill their merchants... None of which is actually likely to anger them enough to actually declare war. Without diplomats to murder, you basically just can't get the friendlies to declare war on you.

That's a shame.  Where may I find this mod for my next game?

I had a vile force of Goblin Christmas arrive.

I like deep canyons with large waterfalls.   I don't care what else is around it, really, but a volcano is a plus and a clown house is a wonderful yet rare surprise.  If I'm missing something, I can improvise.

if you have enough RAM you can embark on any size area, but if you don't have a fast CPU it may be painfully slow near the endgame.