March 6, 2024: Dwarf Fortress 50.12 has been released.
News: February 3, 2024: The February '24 Report is up.
News: February 4, 2021: Dwarf Fortress Talk #28 has been posted.
News: November 21, 2018: A new Threetoe story has been posted.
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Didn't have time to proofread this time! Apologies in advance, things are just that way for the time being.
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Apparently Rumrusher is "Bumrusher" now.
With alchemist removed as a skill, we got the option to use MODSKILL## for defining custom labors. It works fine. However, we can't seem to find a string for the unit type associated with MODSKILL##. So, for example, an elf will show up from off the map and his profession title is "Adept Skill1". Are we all overlooking a string that would let us rename the unittype Skill1?
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=169696.msg8435972#msg8435972
Is open-sourcing parts of the game (especially the ones that relate to the more tedious aspects of it such as rendering, interface, etc.) now in the realm of possibility?
1. With the new additions to the Hidden Fun Stuff (gem spires and all their goodies), Will there be any changes or tweaks to this? While this might seem very hard for new players.. this is.. a oddly easy way to quickly obtain divine artifacts, specially since the baddies that can spawn with in.. tend to be made out of dust or something very weak.
2. With those changes to the Hidden Fun Stuff.. will there be changes to Vaults or anything for adventure mode? (it was possible to open a underworld pillar in adventure mode and cause demons to spawn too).
3. More or less likely when adventure mode is released.. alot of new players will question why we can't mine....lol. Will anything be implemented to let us do this in Adv Mode? Maybe something similar to how DFHack's gui/advfort worked? I would assume it would only allow us to dig on our player-made camps and nowhere else.
4. Without having you spoil to much, will there be any adventure mode bugs/issues that will be fixed for the adv. mode release?
Very much looking forward to Adventurer. With this tileset and the awesome soundtrack (maybe more soundtrack? That would be nice) it should be great fun. Having given yourself a "much further away" deadline to get it done, is this the deep dive focus on bringing Adventurer up to the standards of Fortress with side bugs and other issues all addressed along with the interface that we've all been waiting for? Or is that still something that will eventually happen over a long period of time and updates in amongst other update arcs? While none of it is "finished" of course, how "finished" will it feel as a game compared with Fortress when this update is done do you think?
Is the plan to release adventurer, then get back to villains, or release adventurer once villains is done (since it seems to be a large part of future adventurer play).
Also:
You've mentioned that you want DF playable for people without a numeric keypad. Does this extend to removing keypad movement from Adventurer? Or are you going to keep the keypad controls and also implement other ways of getting about with a mouse like in Caves of Qud?
For what it's worth I wouldn't feel very comfortable playing a roguelike and not being able to use the keypad.
- Why does the world map tileset have tiles for good+savage and evil+savage areas, but not for neutral savage areas?
- Why doesn't the official sprite for beak dogs show them with the rainbow-colored skin that's still in their raws?
What parts of the ear do the BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER parameters correspond to? Right now it seems a bit vague and it really could use some clarification.
Setting tombs in the new interface seems actually harder than previously (making a 1x1 zone on every coffin) unless you enclose every coffin in its own room and use the multi command.
Is that something that needs more development (to have multi recognise lots of unenclosed coffins as separate burial places) or is your vision of dwarven burial to have each coffin in its own room (and therefore system is working as intended).
(Also because the tombs are zones, when you designate a memorial hall over the graveyard it says it's "overlapping" which I think reduces the value, right? Guess that's not a big deal but I do like to avoid overlapping zones...)
will df ever support higher population counts? fortresses typically cap (mostly due to performance reasons) at 200, in worldgen dwarven civilizations typically get in the thousands (with the largest ive seen at 140000) while human typically get into the tens of thousands, with a lot of their population being stacked in town sites, which again, due to performance issues, are unplayable. relative to our world (in the medieval period) though, even the largest human settlements pale in comparison to most small to medium sized historical cities, and player fortresses barely pass as villages, to the point that its easier to think of the various entities as citystates rather than more widespread empires and nations (something which fits the pretty small ingame world size pretty well, and a direction i think df should actually lean into). similiar games like songs of syx usually have their player settlements reach in the thousands, and while i totally understand that this performance cap is due to technological limitations (which the afformentioned game doesn't have), can we expect a raise in site population performance anytime soon? metropolises being larger than irl hamlets and armies being larger than in the dozens would help great for immersion, imo
1. I've noticed in the current version, you're no longer able to assign "pet" sapients to a squad. In prior versions you could, for example, mod the game to make dwarves embark with trolls, and then assign those trolls to a squad led by a dwarf and give them weapons and armor and all that. Is the current absence of this feature a bug or intentional? If the latter I understand given that sort of thing will probably get a more nuanced system in the future but a lot of mods used it, so if its gone for good it'd be good to know.
2. For awhile now cannibalism has been completely impossible even if the civ has ethics that allow for it. Are there any plans to change that in the near future?
How did the stress feedback shape up? Any insights about mechanics involved
Wiki states Advanced worldgen setting BEAST_END_YEAR checks for dead Megabeasts and Titans. Is it just Megabeasts and Titans? Or do semi-megabeasts and forgotten beasts count? And is every Megabeast and Titan a historical figure? Or are there pools of abstract "Megabeast pops" somewhere?
I ask because my settings are to end at 50% with checks starting in the year 250, but I've just generated a 1000 year old world in which (according to Legends Mode historical figures list) 35 of 36 Megabeasts and 13 of 18 Titans are dead. So just wanted to check exactly what it's checking for before sending a bug report.
Quote from: thvazHow close are we to an Adventure Mode release?
I'm really missing it.Quote from: InariusDo you have any timeline/objective in regard of Aventure mode release ? I suppose it will be much faster than doing Fortress, but some things also have to be reworked, so maybe it will be longer than one can expect.
Species descriptions - "fond of drink and industry" - were previously an iconic feature of looking at units in dwarf fortress. Now they are buried four clicks down in the health menu. Instead, the first click of a unit gets in your face with a personality description, even for non-sentient creatures like frogs and elephants. A couple streamers have already made light-hearted fun of this.
Is there any hope of getting the species descriptions back onto the overview? And what about nerfing the extremely-humanoid personalities of anything that doesn't have CAN_SPEAK?
How does the near future look in the terms of improved modding support, versus squashing bugs and optimization? Some "missing" features such as not having SELECT/CUT for all object types means mods have to be written with workarounds/disallow usage with other mods. So I am wondering if it's worth waiting for 50.05 or .06 where that won't be needed, or if it's better (as a modder) to research the workarounds because it will be a while.
Did you have a merry christmas?
Will adventure and arena mode be coming out at the same time? I feel its probable since taking control of units requires the adventure interface, but want to know whats planned.
Lutefisk?
Any thoughts on updating the encoding used for the text in raws? -- I'm having some trouble with this myself at the moment. What about the Raws format itself? Besides updating the files themselves, how big of a lift would it be to move to something like XML or JSON?
Will modders be getting a way to edit dwarf image layers for the steam version without the inherent graphic incompatibilities of redoing the entire dwarf? is a SELECT_* tag a viable addition for this to allow more mod compatibility when editing or adding graphics?
What determines if an image used in game uses palettes for material color or not? Will modders have a way to set their graphics as palette colored? I haven't been able to figure out how to palette cheese.
Will dwarf layers be able to show material colors and dye colors, is there a particular reason that the layers were made for each of the vanilla materials instead of being a single palette colored layer? A group of modders I'm talking to have not been able to manage visible dye conditions outside of item tiles.
Quote from: Shonai_DwellerAre there plans to be able to save the difficulty settings at some point? It's a little frustrating to have the custom settings reset at the start of every game.
Also is there any way currently to make the embark box that shows the list of neighbours longer? It's already cutting off Towers a lot of the time in vanilla and really doesn't work at all in mods with multiple additional civs.Quote from: RandomizerDo you plan on upgrading embark screen or the site finder in the near future?
I agree the embark box should show neighbors at a longer distance. Is it also possible to put all possible races in the site finder where you can check yes, no, friendly, or hostile for each one?
Don't specifically have one? Does that mean it's possible, but just weird and clunky? Something like:
[DESCRIPTION:First line of a description]
[DESCRIPTION:]
[DESCRIPTION:Second line of a description, after a paragraph break]
Would be somewhat awkward, but workable for when a mod needs a description of a moderate size that's still readable (or a changelog; I can't remember ever seeing a changelog that would fit in one line/paragraph comfortably).
Quote from: A_Curious_CatAlso, is there any chance that feather tree eggs will get eggshells (and thus be collectible) before the release?
(Also, I’ll note that bug tracker seems to have been completely wiped clean. Is there any reason for that?)Quote from: Silverwing235What would be an acceptable alternate method of bug reporting for those who cannot, or simply no longer wish to, use Mantis? Emails with [BUG] in subject line, Discord DMs, or something else? (Besides the report forms on Mantis being a shade over-complex IMHO IIRC, this humble Firefox user is having profound difficulties coming to terms with the idea that they may simply have neglected to store their password in this one case, you see.)
the one thing about the villains arc stuff is I hope you can play into the villains that join the fort than having to treat them like a pest... like are the villains that move to your fort still count as a citizen when they are the last citizen? I wonder if this might ruin villain hermit fort runs?
now that the game is out, i can see that there's some stuff in the vanilla definitions that would allow a degree of changes, but it requires me to change my question:
will we gain the ability to add mods to existing save files?
this has become a serious obstacle with mods that aim to improve accessibility by adjusting icons in the ui, or for my use case, replacing audio elements that are highly disruptive (like that horrific REEEE REEE REEEE bird noise in grasslands which is absolutely deleterious to some of us)
making a new save file every time we discover an experiential issue that someone solved with a mod is problematic.
Questions about prostetics reminded me about one thing: exoskeleton or power armor. What about them? In magic/myth future context of course.
On animal people armor
Would it be possible to have one piece of each armor type (one mail one breastplate, one left and right high boot etc) drawn out for each animal person and palatte swapped on demand rather than say one different armor graphic for each piece. Specifically can the graphics system handle palette swapping the gear itself, or would you need to premake the gear and apply the pallete swap manually to each piece of gear, then feed it to the graphic system.
Asking both in desire for custom mod armor/clothing without insane work, and for how your system could handle something like that for “middeground” you spoke of in reference to a similar question.
asking on the eve of release, but assuming you're reading this a good week or so after: were there any last minute mission-critical bugs you had to drop everything to fix, or has it been relatively smooth sailing?
will there be any way to import my current Fortress into the Premium version and be able to see it with graphics?
I've seen that the plan for boats is for them to be able to turn 90 degrees. Does this include turning around X or Y axis (that is, turning a wall into a floor and/or capsizing)?
will you make NFTs for people that donated back in the day? that would be really sweet
Quote from: Shonai_DwellerCouple of Worldgen questions:
MINERAL_SCARCITY in Advanced Worldgen parameters for every type of world changed from 2500 (sparse) to 100 (everywhere) in 50.01.
Was this simply to increase minerals in worlds, or did the balance change somewhere requiring a value of 100 to produce the same kind of result as 2500 in the previous version?
Titan and Werebeast Triggers changed from exact numbers to a 1-5 scale. Can we still adjust Worldgen.txt to use exact figures, or will these be ignored now?
Also:
Would it be possible to have an option to turn off the DFhack style prospector thing from the embark screen in the future? I get that some people are quite vocal about demanding to know exactly where the iron, gold and copper are, but it's kind of destroyed one of the fun things about fortress mode for me, which was adapting to what we discover upon Striking the Earth. Into the unknown...but actually not.Quote from: Shonai_DwellerHow do the "difficulty setting" custom menu population/trade siege triggers interact with the triggers in the raws? Like most people playing in worlds with several different enemy civs, I've set the triggers individually per civ. Are the raws triggers now ignored?
What's the thinking behind removing Civilian Alerts?
Is it due to some plans that you have for later improved sieges? Or a feature that you just haven't finished implementing yet?
I think most players (actual players, not folk struggling to get started) set up a civilian alert. Are our plant gatherers and hunters just supposed to die unless we indulge in horrible micromanagement of manual burrows?
Or is there a missing "get to the tavern" general button somewhere that we've all missed?
Quote from: KadzarWhat's the current priority for adding things like maps/exports for Legends mode to the Steam/itch.io release?Quote from: Stained_ClassWill Legends exports like the xml dump, the maps .bmp exports and other infos on the world like the world gen file, be back in a future version of the Premium game?
What's the current state of the native Linux port for v0.50? Steam doesn't appear to support it, but performance with Proton is apparently good. Are there any plans to port v0.50 natively to Linux for Premium? Will Classic still get a native port going forward?
1.Right now modded creatures without textures show up as the debug creature, which can be annoying. Will this get changed?
2.Will we ever get multiple economic systems rather than strict capitalism or communism?
3.What improvements can we expect from the premium adv mode release?
4.Currently the game doesn't warn you about being close to necromancer towers. Can we expect this to change in the near future?
I've noticed in the caverns that there are these small clusters of various colored diamonds and rubies/sapphires in a chunk of obsidian, but I can find nothing that causes this behavior in the raws. Is this intentional?
I enjoy exploring Legends Mode and I often notice that people often have hundreds of relationships that only last 2-10 years or so, and never just settle down with one person that is a good match for them and who they "love" until they die. It's kind of depressing honestly. I think it would make for better storytelling to have more serious or long lasting relationships, eg. two people have been married for 50 years and one of them is killed/kidnapped by a monster or something, and the other gives up their comfy life in the hamlet to go search for/avenge them. It's just more dramatic. So, is there any plan to make relationships or marriages longer lasting/permanent (given the right circumstances)? I also think displaying the reason for break ups/divorces would be good as well.
I know that fees and taxes and whatnot probably take a sizable chunk out of your sales revenue, but it looks like you just made a boatload of cash. Any fun plans for the money? DF-related or not.
The CUT and SELECT tags you introduced for us are great. However, a couple of these tags are not currently included in the base game, but apply to raw-moddable files. The raw files lacking appropriate CUT or SELECT tags are:
body folder (all files) : b_detail_plan_default, body_default, body_rcp, tissue_template_default
creature folder: c_variation_default
materials folder: material_template
and the following one which i'm personally less concerned about:
building folder: building (only applies to the two vanilla custom buildings, screw press + soaper, anyway)
Why this matters:
If i want to make changes to, say, the c_variation_default file, I can't currently do that, and furthermore its in the same folder with all the creature files and have to ask my players to instead unload the entire Vanilla Creature Objects folder, with all its creatures.
Are there any plans to introduce appropriate CUT and SELECT tags for these raw files?
Regarding a particular game mode, out of sheer curiosity since I personally don't know much about Dwarf Fortress's development, why is Adventure Mode always at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to updates in comparison to Fortress Mode, Legends Mode, and possibly Arena Mode?
Even before Dwarf Fortress's very successful release on both itch.io and Steam, congratulations by the way—got me a copy on Steam as soon as it became available, Adventure Mode was always last to receive the amount of attention Fortress Mode receives and now it's yet again last to receive updates and implementation into the premium version of Dwarf Fortress.
It's my favorite game mode, so I can't help but wonder, but thanks for all that you and your brother do. I'm very much looking forward to Dwarf Fortress's bright future now that its premium variant has been released.
I'm seeing some changes in worldgen between 47.05 and 50.02 in my modded world. Mostly that my one incredibly aggressive expansionist city building civ is not expanding (as you'd expect them to do in 90% of worlds generated in previous version) and they are content to found a couple of sites then build tombs until they go extinct. Same raws, same worldgen settings, no errors in copying stuff across as far as I can see. Just...different.
What kind of adjustments were made to worldgen balance this time that might affect the rate at which civs spread out? Maybe some necromancer nerfs or something?
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After some fiddling about I found that adding Indoor/outdoor_farming gets them working again. I assume this is additions/fixes to the economy working behind the scenes. So generally is anything else interesting going on behind the scene during worldgen?
Quote from: Immortal-DCan you elaborate on what Putnam will be doing over the coming months? - Do you have plans to hire additional help in the near future? - Have you been receiving feedback about QoL changes to the UI? (tomb zones, report history, etc.)Quote from: Manveru TaurënérI assume this might very well be clarified soon enough anyway by either Putnam, Tarn or Kitfox, but I'm curious if there's a specific focus that Putnam is currently set to have?
I might be wrong but I'd assume Toady will want to keep the big picture, foundational feature coding of the game to himself still.
we saw someone on the kitfox discord say that the reason labor management was changed was because you don't want us to be able to micromanage our dwarves. is this a true sentiment, or were they just salty?
[we quite liked the degree of control we had in the old system, so if it was intentionally removed and WONTFIX'd rather than an unexpected side effect of the new one... well, we'd be a little sad.]
what has collaborating with fans been like? will mike and the others be continuing to provide assets as development continues?
1. I noticed in the steam version that combat and announcement logs are currently limited and temporary compared to previous version. I just wanted to check if a more comprehensive and permanent log will be brought back into future versions. Rereading what my guys were up to is important for storytelling purposes.
2. Related to storytelling, will we eventually be able to export legends content like before? Viewing it in 3rd party programs was fun but it was the easiest way to export world gen parameters.
3. There seems to be some confusion that the game has been slightly 'simplified' (less granular labor management, inability to select specific ammo, burrows etc) for the sake of reaching a wider audience. I don't believe that was ever mentioned and besides a few specific examples I don't see much evidence of that so I believe that's just a rumor that a handful of people are running with. I'm certain a lot of the examples people site are things currently in the works. Unless I missed it, which I totally could have, it might be nice to have a list of familiar features currently missing that are currently being worked on from the "old" version that will make their way to the steam version versus things that have been actually been simplified if that's the case.
I noticed in the steam version of fortress mode some content changes have been made to make the game more approachable. Will adventure mode receive any content or gameplay changes when it finally releases on steam? And if so, are there any future changes you are able to tell us about at this time?
I kind of love the way that, in 50.0x, you can click on your cats or even the giant hamster closing in on your fisherdwarves and read that he's "grouchy after being caught in the rain" and other such thoughts. Is that supposed to happen, or is it something you'll be re-concealing later? Same for enemy skills, were they visible before? I forget.
Dwarf Fortress is a wild success it seems, but it is all an illusion without you. By the fact that you have started reading the second sentence of this report, you are more than likely invested in the success of this project. You could have contributed directly. You could merely have told a friend, or taught a younger sibling how to play. None of this could have happened without you. Be confident in the fact that none of this was possible without the support of the people that helped us out from the beginning and those that helped us along these amazing 20 years, by far the best in my life.
Thanks to everybody that helped out in December! The launch went great - we won't have all the specific numbers until mid-February when everything has been processed through Valve and Kitfox, but the game sold almost half a million copies in December, which is awesome.What is the state of keyboard control in DF and what plans are there for it going forward?
Are the vanilla raws split into multiple zipped folders going forwards, or was the "vanilla_buildings" example just an example?
I personally think that 30$ is a good price for such awesome game but people in russian community ask about possible region prices.
In a Watsonian sense, how do you think a DF world gets its first anvil, given how you, in gameplay, need a forge to make an anvil... And you need an anvil to build a forge.
This may have been asked before, But how much test coverage does your code have?(2022)
How moddable will DF be with workshop support? will people be able to change core features of the game (different farming mechanics, different combat mechanics, new systems, etc) or will it be limited to using modules already in the engine?
Will you include earnings from the Premium version in the monthly Bay 12 Reports? It's hard to speak for others, but I know I would appreciate the transparency.
Also, if it hasn't been disclosed by this point (the start of December), will DF Classic/ASCII mode be ready at the Premium launch?
1.Will non grazing animals require food before magic?
2.Right now adventure mode is basically unplayable in big cities. Will we get the option to add a population cap to sites?
3.Will gods have personalities after magic?
4.What can we expect the villains to do in our forts once the Villain Update is done?
Just watched the new video by Kitfox on YouTube, and I’ve got a question. I’ve noticed that the game doesn’t pause when a smaller screen pops up. Will it be possible to move these screens around on the screen so they don’t cover up what you don’t want them to cover up?
1. Might creatures (particularly forgotten beasts) made of fluid, gas or powder get buffed before the big wait? Seeing as how they're really fragile and a bit underwhelming (despite monsters like this in fantasy often being extra dangerous/hard to kill).
2. Will it be possible for off-site/worldgen combat calculations to be made more accurate at some point? Outside of the "literally viewing the battle with a second camera" thing planned for after the map rewrite, that is.
According to what I've heard from others, basically nothing factors into the outcome but combat skills, size, and the leaders tactical skills (basically none of their special abilities or comparative body material durability matters); and battles are all a sequence of 1v1s, so sheer numbers can't "overwhelm" an opponent, at best being extra dice rolls for one individual to get a lucky strike in.
3. Are animated worldmap tiles in the plans for the post-release graphics enhancements? Stuff like moving water/rivers, those "sparkles" in good aligned forests actually sparkling, "heat haze" for hot biomes, etc.
1. Will the world gen rewrite / myth and magic include constellations? Processions of the equinoxes? It would be really cool to have, say, "The Astrological age of the Shoe Cobbler end with the Cavy Pig Apocalypse, for so it was written in the beginning," for example. Also it would give all my astronomers more stuff to do
2. Tropics and Sub-Tropics would be very nice to have, rather than the random distribution of deserts and jungles, even if the implementation was "quick and dirty" so to speak. Any plans to include that? And trade winds? Oh I can see how this would affect boats and trade... hmmmmm....
*Since the game already has wind values based on latitude, it looks as though this was already an intended feature, but never fully implemented? I'm not sure if you intend to go the full nine yards and include axial tilt and such.
*edits for clarity
3. A recent combat log indicated that: "A forgotten beast bit off Urist McDwarfbaby's head! The part went flying in an arc!"
Infant mortality being what it is in DF, will there be artwork for dead dwarven infants / infant body parts? Or will changes have to be made now that the game is being published and distributed to a wider audience than before?
Quote from: Buttery_MessWhat sort of FPS does the new version run at? Have there been optimisations that make it run faster?
Can you limit the fort's population size from inside the game now, rather than having to do it through the init files?
For that matter, have most of the modifiable values which affect gameplay which were located in the init and d_init files been put into the main game?Quote from: A_Curious_CatOn a side note, have you seen this thread? If so, what do you think of Putnam’s discovery?
Quote from: Shonai_DwellerYou mentioned in the interview the other day that the 200 or so animal people don't have the layers info in their graphics RAWS to show clothing, hairstyles and such visually. That's a lot of data, so seems reasonable.
1) Presumably there's no hard-coded restrictions on adding these ourselves in our mods (for those of us who play in worlds where rat people are far more important than elves)? Or will we run into issues with elephant-man helmets?
2) Is this something you consider as needed for releasing Adventurer (since surely no-one ever plays parties consisting entirely of dwarves, elves, humans and goblins)?
Apologies if it's all been answered before. Been in hibernation while this arc gets done.Quote from: voliolFrom my understanding, the creature variation templates will continue to only be for creatures in the upcoming release, instead of being generalized for all sorts of objects. I imagine this is some technical issue, but on which level?
And if it ends up being expanded/replaced by something more general, do you think it could work on graphics tokens as well? Admittedly a bit suggestion-y, but I think it could shorten the graphics files quite a lot using the argument functionality.
Quote from: Mr Crabman1. Are duplicated raws still a problem, or will mods later in the loading order that use the same ID for an object (eg, a creature) replace/overwrite definitions in previous mods?
2. Is there a way to disable/toggle certain raw files, within a single mod/package from the workshop? For example, after downloading a "More Creatures" mod from the workshop, having some ingame menu that lets you toggle say, amphibians off but keep the mod's birds. Or alternatively, some other solution that allows a single Workshop subscription/page to contain what is technically multiple mods (so that "granular" mods don't have to post a million entries to the workshop).Quote from: Eric BlankI had the same concern. Several people specifically asked me to add support for removing certain features from the mod I'm curating, which I did by splitting it into multiple parts as well as the single all-in-one version. With the steam release, will this modularity be possible from a single download now, i.e. uploading multiple object folders in the same steam mod and disabling the ones you don't want?
How long has the changelog grown to, presuming that you've managed to keep one this whole time?
When will the caravans become more selective in the items they are willing to buy as well as the prices they put on items. They would act as real traders other then garbage collectors. They give a list of what they will accept. They may be convinced to take other stuff if it is of high quality and rare however.
How far off is the Improved Mechanics Update? (feasible trap mechanisms, springs, gears, ropes, pullies, piping, conveyer belts, maybe rock crushers, hydraulics?, Pneumatics?, etc.)
The Dwarf Fortress development page mentions "automatons and magical prostheses" as part of Myth&Magic. These features seems innocent on the surface level, but actually raise a lot of question (hopefully not too many to answer):
1. Are the prostheses only for limbs, or will there be ones for every organ?
2. How will prostheses fair in comparison to the original body part?
3. Will there be magical prosthetics that give the user magic powers?
4. Will it be possible to:
4,1. attach a prosthetic in addition to a being's natural body parts? Imagine a craftsdwarf having 4 arms, 2 natural and 2 artificial, increasing work speed.
4,2. replace a healthy body part with a prosthetic one?
4,3. mix and match parts (replace a dwarf's legs with prosthetic arms)?
5. How much of a dwarf's body can be replaced until he is considered an automaton?
6. Will automatons be able to take roles of nobility?
7. Will there be automaton models besides the standard humanoid worker?
8. What will be the upkeep costs of an automaton (I presume they won't need food and alcohol)?
9. Will you be able to have an automaton-exclusive fortress or play as an automaton in adventure mode?
10. Will it be possible for one to achieve immortality not via necromancy, but by replacing aging flesh with machinery/putting one's soul into an automaton body?
You had said in villains part 2 a fort takeover could happen. Could you shed some more light on what this entails? And how the fort behaves afterwords? Does it become some big bad hq afterwords? Will villains use it as a base for future operations?
Will we be able to visually identify wild plants, or will we still need to mouse over/select them?
Will we be able to see the specific weapons used in a trap?
With the recent balance changes to farming, have you considered making greenhouses from glass roofs/walls?
How do we identify the differences between animals and their savage giant cousins? Do they have different art, or are they larger than a single tile?
Are there any Beasts/Titans that will take up more than one tile, or is that something you're not interested in doing?
What time will the game actually release? Is it a "rolling release" where every timezone gets access at midnight (or some other time) or a global release where everyone gets it at 0000XXT?
What will happen in the new version if you kill off the original dwarf caravan in the first year(drowning chamber)? Prolonged war? Will you ever get another dwarf caravan, perhaps from a different dwarf civilization?
1. I’m very excited about the upcoming changes to the "difficulty" of trading & farming in the Steam release, as “balance / challenge” has always been a big interest of mine. Are there plans down the road to similarly tweak other systems with an eye for balance, e.g. changing how easy it is to feed a fortress via trees / fishing, or certain combat options like cage traps having outsized effectiveness?
2. Similarly, with the eventual “army / siege” update down the line, are there any plans relating to the consistency / relative strength level of goblin sieges? I know it was only a “gamey” stopgap measure at the time, but one aspect I appreciated about the old goblin siege mechanics in the pre-0.4x days was reliably knowing a goblin siege would turn up in the first few years of new forts (if listed as a neighbor), and subsequent sieges would usually be roughly proportional to your fort's wealth / size, regardless of what other things may have been going on in the world.
So is ORANGE confirmed for being a new color in classic?
I was looking at some of the screenshots you had hosted of the new classic mode recently, when I noticed the color difference.
If you were cursed by a witch to live out your days as an animal person, which would you choose?
1. Do the new STEAM_TAG and STEAM_KEY_VALUE_TAG tokens accept any string value at all, or are they limited to pre-defined values (and if so, what are they)? Normally I see Steam workshops only using a limited number of tags that mods opt in to, like this for example:
(image w/ some tags, but not lotsa tags)
2. Can mod descriptions be multiple lines? For instance, by putting newlines in the DESCRIPTION or STEAM_DESCRIPTION tags, or by using one tag per line? Same question goes for the changelog.
3. I see that files still have headers, like so (the first line here):Code: [Select]item_helm
[OBJECT:ITEM]
Currently this header is required to load the file (it determines the loading order of files and such), and must be unique; is that still the case, or is it vestigial?
4. Can different mods have files with the same name? Like, can another mod use `item_helm.txt` in its own object file at the same time as vanilla is loaded (provided that the object IDs inside the file are unique of course), or will it cause some conflict in processing later down the line?
4b. And if duplicates are allowed, does the header (from question 3) need to be unique between mods?
5. What is STEAM_METADATA used for?
Now that we've got a listen for the soundtrack, I want to preface my question with reassurances that the ambient music tracks are absolutely amazing and I'll probably listen to them when I go to sleep later.
At the same time, The vocal tracks like Drink & Industry and a very clearly upgraded Koganusan have given me goosebumps on a wholly different level. Assuming there are no hidden surprises on the music front for The Release, what are the chances of other vocal tracks such as Tankard Basher and Danger Room, or even more all-new tracks finding their way into future updates?
I'm guessing the answer is yes, but is there a CUT_CREATURE and SELECT_CREATURE equivalent for all OBJECT types, including the graphics-defining stuff and creature variations?
And what happens if one uses a CUT_X tag (or SELECT_X) on an object that wasn't defined yet? For example, if CUT_CREATURE:DWARF, but the user disabled vanilla raws and has no other mod defining DWARF beforehand? Would `SELECT_CREATURE:undefined_creature` just silently not do anything or would it create the thing on the spot?
Have you ever looked up at the moon and said, "Everything I worked on since I was 5 years old, 42 years ago, is culminating with the press of a button, into a pass/fail judgment of your entire life's work?" Of course you haven't. Neither have I. I keep my emotions under control as stress finds its way into my nightmares and robs my brain of the ability to make good decisions. So I hope for the whole team's sake that you press that button. Thanks to everybody that helped out in November. Yeaaaah, here we go! Dwarf Fortress releases on Steam and itch on December 6th. This should be fun. Another thank you to all of the people that have gotten us to this point. We all need release. Release you shall have! On December 6th comes the object of desire all of you have been waiting for. This is the point of the release date we have released at long last. Was it worth it? You'll know in about a month when you purchase the game you should have wishlisted on Steam by now. The greater the success the greater the glory to gaming itself. This will be a moment you will remember as you finally tunnel into the ground and stay there for longer than you probably should. Not long now! Thanks to everybody that helped out! December 6th! This year! Why don't hair, nails, and a couple of other tissues that grow back in real life have healing rates? They aren't exactly vital organs, but it sucks losing a dwarf to an infected beard wound that won't heal.
How is the new version's multithreading/multiple CPU core use looking?
Real-Life mythologies, although sometimes chaotic and having varying degrees of consistency depending on the period, have some form of inner-logic. There is a reason for this or that god to be there, or this or that agent of the gods to exist. DF's current handling of the gods is quite ubiquitous at times. Do you plan on actually retooling or entirely reworking the way Myths work so to generate some that are more accurate to the way real mythologies are formed/written?
Would it be possible in the Myth and Magic expansion to create sky worlds? Like worlds where the continents are floating and the oceans are an endless sea of clouds? Or worlds where you live on the back of a turtle or worlds where it is literally one big giant tree?
Are there plans to add more gameplay features for forts with 'Mountainhome' status, e.g. ability to direct the overall civilisation, declare wars, expand the civ, etc? Or is there any other 'end-game' type content you have been thinking about?
I wonder will the myth and magic update have stuff like people who became saints or siddha and will you be able to become one
Was diagonal gaps removing water pressure an intentional feature, and if not, do you feel like you can't change it now?
Will the appearance description of any dwarf/human/elf/etc. receive an overhaul as well in preparation for the myth and magic update? The thoughts and preferences of any individual goes in-depth into any particular dwarfs personality but doesnt really describes their build or physique other than saying they are weak or strong. As there been any thoughts in simplifying the personality lore and adding more depth to physique descriptions?
Will the new raw formatting be released before the game is, so modders get a chance to prepare their mods?
[ID:vanilla_buildings]
[NUMERIC_VERSION:5001]
[DISPLAYED_VERSION:50.01]
[EARLIEST_COMPATIBLE_NUMERIC_VERSION:5001]
[EARLIEST_COMPATIBLE_DISPLAYED_VERSION:50.01]
[AUTHOR:Bay 12 Games]
[NAME:Vanilla Buildings]
[DESCRIPTION:These are the default Dwarf Fortress buildings.]
[REQUIRES_ID:<id>]
[REQUIRES_ID_BEFORE_ME:<id>]
[REQUIRES_ID_AFTER_ME:<id>]
[CONFLICTS_WITH_ID:<id>]
In a similar vein as to the recent (Oct. 22nd) devlog, is it possible to clean up some of the decoration jobs? Right now there's a twofold issue: inability to specify exactly what object to decorate, and inability to avoid "repeat" decorations. The former means you have to set up very specific stockpiles to decorate, say, a very specific statue, and the latter means you can only decorate one thing at a time— if you try to queue up decorating, say, several statues with gemstones, you'll instead just decorate the first one with all the gemstones.
The rest of that devlog made me incredibly excited for the release; thank you so much for your hard work!
On a side note, I saw something about a “vermin catcher’s workshop”. What’s that about?
Are there any plans to revamp or add onto the bug tracker for Steam release? Or will Steam users also be directed to the catch-all Mantis archive?
Bit of an odd question, but I was hoping to add the crayon drawing I received to the wiki as an illustration on a creature page. Could you confirm whether this picture depicts a draltha or a drunian? (I requested a draltha but the colours and body shape threw me off, so now I'm second-guessing and don't want to put it on the wrong page.)
I would like to know more about necromancer experiments: the huge amalgations mentioned in legends Mode, which seem to rampage like (semi)megabeasts. Is it possible to meet them in fortress mode or adventure mode? Would two of the same species be able to breed? I would like to know if they could even break away from their necromancer and join societies.
Creatures use the same color descriptions as wood and stone. Will creatures like dogs and cats also vary in color based on those colors, like furniture and dwarves will?
On the old consolidated development page, one of the categories of things to do was called "bloats". Considering that this is a word that generally has derogatory connotations, why was it selected to describe this category?
Similarly to the recent changes to the jeweler's workshop, are there plans to also adjust some of the other generic "do things with thing" tasks so that they can be made more functional? For instance, jobs at a farmer's workshop don't let you specify what to process, milling jobs don't let you specify what to mill, and cooking jobs don't let you specify what ingredients to use (you can broadly say what you want to allow to cook or not cook, but you can't, say, set up a cooking task specifically to cook away all that flour or sugar you keep producing).
Also, similar to the bin changes, have you also considered making a similar change to bags/barrels? Farms in particular are notorious for seed barrels (and to a lesser extent, seed bags) having the same effect as bins.
When I first played DF, it was the bin bug that got me close to losing my mind. Especially with farm seeds. Didn’t end up encountering too many other bugs. The bin one took way too much googling back then to figure out. So grateful it’s been purged.
How does it feel to be resolving issues like that which you’ve had in the code for so long? Also, how are you prioritizing which bugs to fix/QoL stuff to add?
Does Kitfox have a stream of people new to the game getting fresh eyes on it to point out things that frustrate? Or is it mostly experienced dorfs giving suggestions, or do you feel you’ve got a good sense of what has needed fixing for awhile and just haven’t had time to do it until now?
Seems like a big priority for this release is making sure the thousands (millions?) of people who are first exposed don’t lose their minds with bugs/complexity right off the bat. Are you nervous about that period/response?
Why is (kobold ore) cobaltite represented as a blue ore in game? And why can't we use it for anything?
Just curious about this. Were there plans at one point to make blue glass or blue porcelain a thing?
I always forget when I mine this stuff, that I can't turn it into anything other than blue furniture.
Why do beetles live at the circus?
Lol sorry, no punch-line for this one! I just found a couple of these lil' buddies pokin' around in the slade while taking a stroll in adventure mode. I backpacked a couple of them back to the fortress to make for a neat little bug exhibit for the dwarves, and I couldn't help but wonder what they were doing down there.
Have you ever seen those sheep that live on the Isle of Man?
They're called Manx Loaghtan sheep.
1. Is there anything planned in the future to allow vampires to produce blood in order to transmit vampirism. Currently you can fill a goblet with vampire tainted blood and offer it to an NPC to drink but this method involves you having to wound and collect your own blood or another vampires.
2. Will title inheritance at some point get an overhall so each civ have different title inheritance rules. Currently i believe it looks for the offspring with the best social stats and failing that i believe the title goes randomly. So perhaps one dwarven civilization establishes absolute cognatic primogeniture whilst another decides on ultimogeniture. Additionally would this if implemented could change depending on the dwarf.
3. Will religions be unrestricted in adventure mode, as currently you have to be of that race of the civilization in order to choose one of their religons so if i was a bark scorpion man coming from a dwarven civilisation i cannot choose to worship any gods even of the civilization i am apart of. To further this, apart from assuming identity will you consider enabling the ability in adventure mode to find faith or pray to a god. Could make for an interesting story if an adventurer found faith on their journey or perhaps begun to worship a new god.
1.Will civilizations get evolving ethics?
2.I think it's pretty silly how you can slaughter all your visitors and they still keep coming. Will we get a visitor reputation system in the near future?
3.Will we get the option to surrender to the invading force and become part of their civilization?
4.Will there ever be a personality trait that makes people enjoy seeing death and violence?
5.Right now your military will charge mindlessly into the enemy and jump into moats. Will they get a better ai before magic?
6.Will we ever get sports in our fortresses?
When does the game shows the plural version of body parts? Like "right upper arms" instead of "right upper arm"? Everywhere I've checked, it just seems to either list each individual part one by one, or show the non-plural version and a number beside it.
Or I guess to get to the root of what I really want to know: body tokens accept the value `STP` which just takes the normal name and adds an `s` on the end; STP standing for "standard plural" I believe:
[OBJECT:BODY]
[BODY:NOSE]
[BP:NOSE:nose:STP]
But I want to know if it also accepts the value `NP`, which stands for "no plural", and is used in other places in the raws. Would it accept NP as intended (making the plural of "nose" also just be "nose"), or would it literally just use the letters "NP" for the plural version of the name?
Quote from: PillboWhat were you for Halloween? (Or what would you like to be if you had taken the time to put together a costume?)Quote from: A_Curious_CatHave the two of you ever considered dressing up as a toad and a sloth for Halloween?
Will succession forts/trading savegames be possible in the initial steam release, or will it take some time for that to be possible?
1. Assuming it's finalized now, how many music tracks are there now?
2. Where are the classic tracks going now, since apparently there is new menu music, and legends mode also has custom music for it?
3. It's been asked before, but... is there any news on what's happening with the intro movie?
Do you smell that? It's the odor of baking game ready to come out of the oven. Thing is: It's got to cool on the pan before we let you eat it. Someone's got to slap some icing on it. Someone else has to sprinkle the jimmies. What on Earth am I talking about? It's coming soon. Thanks to everybody that helped out in September! You all really got us up and over the top, and the reward is coming. I'm kind of flabbergasted at the amount of new art and sound. 23 ambiences... did not see this coming. Anyway, I'm just fixing stuff up now while Zach tests and we get the last buildings and fishes and such drawn. We don't have a date yet, since holidays are weird and certain stars need to align still, but things are going really well.What do you mean divine metal in fortress mode? How will we be able to get our hands on it? Will we be able to get different variations?
In regards to the new mod loading system, how will total conversions be handled?
Is Technological progress planned? As in Tech being researched and developed over time, be it by player's request or organically during worldgen.
Currently the world has a stagnant tech level which i don't find fun... or !!FUN!! after all who wouldn't love to show our elven friends some new super fast flying sticks or funny explosion sticks!
Would it be possible to make the transition a little smoother, by making the elements slide from one tile to the next?
Regarding game dir nomenclature: does "raw" originally stand for "Rules As Written"? Or is the folder called raw in the sense that it contains "raw data"?
Also, what are "tokens", "flags" and "tags" in your own words? Are the three terms synonymous w/ each other? They are often used interchangeably by mostly everyone here. I ask b/c when you use the terms in your posts, you appear to use tag and flag interchangeably, but usually use token in a different sense.
From what I understand you would not call AMPHIBIOUS or LARGE_PREDATOR tokens, but call them tags (specifically creature tags). In most definitions, a token is an instance of a type of object, right? So DOG is a token, and CREATURE is the type; DOG would be an instance of CREATURE. Or BLUEBERRY is a token of the object type PLANT, SKIN_TEMPLATE is a token of the object type MATERIAL_TEMPLATE (or the object type TISSUE_TEMPLATE, depending on context). FLUX is a token of REACTION_CLASS, ANGER is a token of PERSONALITY, GLACIER is a token of BIOME, etc. But PHYS_ATT_RANGE wouldn't be called a token b/c it isn't an object itself... I hope I didn't contradict myself.
Do you have any idea what the new release number will be? Currently, it's 0.47.05. Are we looking at another 0.4x.00 release, or are we going to be hitting or even exceeding the 0.5x.00 milestone?
1. The fantasy landscape has changed a whole lot ever since DF was released. Do you still see the game as a "generic fantasy simulator" or something that has its own sort of twist on the fantasy genre now?
2. Speaking of fantasy, have you been reading/watching/playing anything fantasy related? If so, does your lectures/watchings/playthroughs give you inspiration for future DF content?
3. Sometimes I look at DF's beastiary and wonder why was this or that animal/fantasy creature was added. What exactly qualifies as a good candidate for a new addition to the game's roster of creatures to you?
Are there any plans to revise the list of critters that can be Tamed and War-Trained before Steam? For example; Grizzly Bear has both, Black Bear has neither. Dragons can be war-trained, but are born Adult and so never fully Tamed in the first place.
Quote from: BlackAionWill the Myth and Magic Release have gods of all categories (e.g. Gods of War, Sea, Lust etc.) and with all the respective magics that come with those titles?
Like will the physical manifestation of say a God Of Nature cause various magical creatures to come existence, magical forests to be made, and increase the number of Megabeasts?Quote from: BlackAionThanks for the quick reply but I got to ask, what powers would a God of Love/Lust even have? I am having a hard time figuring out what impacts they would have on the world that is significant but stays PG-13.
1.Will we ever get to see the procedural tavern games?
2.During the Premium gameplay livestream I saw an option called "Economy: Normal/Hard". What does that mean?
Currently, dwarves can embark at any place in the world (barring mountains, water) regardless of how difficult or dangerous the travel there would be. Will this ever change, or will the dwarves always be able to set up a fort in the middle of an evil biome, for the sake of player freedom?
What kind of changes are planned for adventure mode? By which i mean: what shortcomings do you think it has, and what are your ideas for solving said problems
(the UI is the obvious one) but im hoping for some minor new mechanics to address things, i really like the idea of the irritation mechanic for instance. Super interested in what he has to say
Quick question, how many different tiles are there for the same thing? For instance are there three different tiles for an unsmoothed stone floor or is there only one tile (in other words, piece of art work).
Why are dwarves unable to wield melee and ranged weapons simultaneously (as they are meant to function at least) they can carry both, and will train and fight with their melee weapons just fine, but the second a fight starts or you set them to train their ranged skills, they drop all of their picked up ammunition and get stuck in a loop trying to pick it up again (or ignore it to fight their target and come back) are they just not meant to be able to, or is it a bug.
Do you foresee any problems with the future of the fortress and similar community centric practices given the presumably enlarged community?
According to the latest blogpost we will be able to "append a few lines to existing entries". If I understand this right it should also be possible to remove or alter most tokens by having these new tokens be creature variation tokens (CV_REMOVE_TAG and CV_CONVERT_TAG). Is this right?
And if it is, is there some way to do this for objects other than creatures, since the current creature variations only work on those? And is there a way of changing what creature variations have been assigned at an earlier stage, e.g. changing SLUG_MAN to use ANIMAL_PERSON instead of ANIMAL_PERSON_LEGLESS?
Do you know if what you have done for Fortress will help to convert Adventure mode to new UI and graphical mode ? And which part will remain ?
Practicality of playing on a 16-16 map. With all the code updates for the big release as well as future updates, will the game ever be able to be played on a full 16-16 map? It would be a unique challenge making minecarts much more necessary. It is something I would really like to do.
The Dwarf Fortress year consists of 12 equal Months... But there are actually precisely 13 Lunar Cycles in each year. Is there any particular reason why these numbers don't match?
Will certain materials be grouped together as the same color for simplicity just like in the f2p Dwarf Fortress game? (i.e. Andesite, Basalt, Chromite, Claystone, Diorite, Gabbro, Graphite, Hornblende, Ilmenite, Jet, Mica, Pyrolusite, Rhyolite, Shale, and Slate all being Dark Gray in appearance.)
If not, will there be a specific color for ever possible construction material?
71 types of wood (including "normal" and "wagon")
12 non-economic stones (Shale, Granite, Gneiss, etc.)
13 economic stones (Marble, Obsidian, etc.)
40 "other" stones (Stones found within deposits of other stones. i.e. "Periclase" veins are sometimes found in Marble layers.)
17 ores (Native metals and minerals like Galena)
25 types of metal (pure and alloys)
3 types of glass (green, clear, crystal)
3 types of ceramic bricks (earthenware, stoneware, and porcelain)
6 bars (Ash, Charcoal, Coke, Pearlash, Potash, and Soap)
190 total colors for constructed materials?
If every material gets its own color, will all 65 types of boulders have different colors to distinguish them from their brick counter parts? (eco, non-eco, and "other" stone)
Will there be variations in the final product beyond just color?
I know that roads made with boulders are given the "rough" modifier, while roads made with cut stone are not. Will that "rough" modifier be applied visually?
Will there be a visual difference between the materials I use in the construction (i.e. Wood, Stone, Ore, and Brick) or will they all follow the same design and just palette swap?
Will objects like wheelbarrows and minecarts also have varying color palettes, or will this super cool feature be limited to construction?
Bonus Round:
Will you finally be implementing Pearls, coral, and Amber into the game?