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Well.  Now you know one of the many ways *not* to breach a volcano.  Just keep at it till theres a minimum of burning short-arses and yer golden.

Incidentally i'm lazy and use no floodgates, fortifications or grates or any such but suffer no magma critters.  I cut the hall for the forges and plan where each workshop will go, channeling the required holes to let the workshops access the magma.  I then put a down stair in one corner of the room and cut the radiator (the grid-shape that will contain 7/7 magma) beneath.

 I use legendary miners to cut the actual flow loose, i2amroy gave a trick on page 1 that will never cost you a dwarf, i always use that (designate a nearby tile for mining after the dwarf begins on the desired tile, undesignate it again once hes breached the pipe and is moving, if you have multiple miners you may need multiple of these 'bait' designations to be sure the guy tapping the pipe gets assigned one of them)
Another reason to use a miner for this is that if through some stupid dwarfyness it all goes pearshaped, he can cut himself a new upstair faster than magma flows and you just have an extra stair to deal with, as opposed to a burning beardy.

Once the magma is running into the radiator and the miner is out, i channel out the downstair from the forge-deck and floor it over.  When you then build your workshops they will block the holes you cut to provide them with power and there is no way for critters to get onto the forge level, even if they drift into the radiator (which they will almost never do since theres no path).  Just make sure you are positioning the workshops so that impassible tiles are above the holes allowing access to the magma, if you mess this bit up then yeah...crabs and gimps everywhere.

The only true drawback to this kind of method of inflow is that you cannot drain the radiator to expand it, though you can cut another one adjacent and then breach into your original one using the same tactics as tapping the original magmapipe.  The floodgate is usually there for control for just these reasons, but magma-dwelling building destroyers then necessitate all that faffing about with fortifications and grates, which is just timeconsuming.  Without those features the entire magmaforge including it's 'plumbing' can be dug by 1 miner, probably within a month.

If you decide later to build a superdwarfy magma weapon then dont make the mistake of linking the reservoir to your radiators, build it it's own tank, magma flows much slower than water and charging your weapon will likely depower the forgedeck

I've done this one a few times, it was the first way I managed to win.  It can be done without firing, punching, or infact ever being seen.

For easy 'velvet' mode then use the liberal guardian and a stealthy individual to steal stuff for them to run in special editions.  You can generally win the game within around 4 years using only 2 characters, thief and writer.  And the only reason it takes that long is the usual entrenched politicians.

For a harder 'velvet' I prohibit myself from building a guardian.  Victory here is still surprisingly easy and often faster than a violent route.  Stealth is great, just rob a load of sites blind, even if you strip the site completely and leave with them only suspicious they seem to suspect you and the papers credit you.

The reason I find the non-violent route so absurdly easy is that you can steal every single last loot item at a site (and interact with all machines/etc) and as long as you didnt do any shooting then the site will not close down.  As you may already know, leaving a site on high security rather than closed down has a larger impact on opinion.

The only 'velvet' that busts my balls is velvet from nightmare.  You pull that one off you let me know   Technically its no harder than from regular start if you are being non-violent, but you dont get to make any mistakes, generally my thief will make at least 2 trips to the courts before i win (he defends himself, nobody in my organisations is ever below 4 law), in a nightmare mode you may not have that option if you didnt manage to dislodge the deathsquads yet.  Nightmare starts also rule out activities like graffiti and disobediance untill midgame (unless you like to run from DSquad).  For velvet from nightmare i really must highly recommend focusing the courthouse and police station asap until the DSquad vanishes

Hah awesome.  You got shafted so hard by your own game.  This means its a true roguelike, props man.  Also, yes, Josephine Justice is the greatest founder name ever

how can you skip time ?

You have to disband and start over once the country falls back into arch-conservative anarchy.  every keypress at the disbanded screen skips 1 month.  You get your founder and any sleeper contacts he/she had back when you reform, i think thats it.  You keep safehouses, items, cash etc etc.  But your founder will age.  But this isnt an issue if you spent the first revolution packing them with epic skills and teach since you can create an army extremely quickly

Crosstrain!  This is key in combat strategies really, that way you have fewer true critical members.

Get law on your founder followed by a few points of education as soon as possible and make your priority teaching that to your soldiers.  A nice soldier or police sleeper can flood you with gear early.

If in nightmare mode then get rid of deathsquad asap by shutting down the cops repeatedly until the people curtail them bypassing the government..

Now you can go the megaforceful route with some impunity, if you get in over your head just surrender and defend yourself, the juice boost for that rocks and if combined with a sleeper judge you can usually walk on some really heinous rapsheets.  I generally make my soldiers all stealthy too so could probably spring the entire organization from death cells with any single member.

The other benefit of course of that law teaching is any non-criminal liberals you have can also defend themselves legally from stuff like flag burning which they might get hit with.

You will learn to love the police station, raid it nice and regularly.  Getting seiged all the damn time sucks.

I always kinda hoped that now we have such a strong information system available (the net) we could actually pull off the direct hardcore 1-man, 1-vote democracy.  Would be an interesting system.  I always felt the setup now reminded me strongly of Republican Rome which I guess became representitive democracy at some point, my politics isnt strong enough to define where that line is.

Some countries do hold large-scale referrendums but its limited usually to momentous events.  The best examples I can think of are European Countries going yes/no on the EU and Euro.  Typicaly these are plagued by low participation anyway.  Voter Apathy is the true enemy, not Conservatism.

i did once try to get to 2100 by disbanding and refoming to change the society.
if you disband only a few members will come back(do the brainwashed aways come back?)but you will keep and your guns and cash you have stock piled.

It seems that the only ones that come back are sleepers.   I've never had liberals return to the cause, just the sleepers who pop-up over the first few months out of retirement