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I've been thinking of making some more "advanced" armors/weapons for my mod, that are going to be made via reactions so I can justify their increased usefulness by making them harder to make...

But the problem I have is I'm not really sure what defines a "better" armor or weapon. Especially for armor, I can't really think of ways to improve upon the existing stuff. For weapons, I forget which tokens are the ones you want to increase to do more, and which actually do better if they're lower.

Any pointers?

flat out value of item, the material is the multiplyier, so if books (tool) are worth 100 on there own, and then the book is made of gold (x10) then that book unimporved is worth 1000db

Ah I see, I wasn't sure if the value token was just a flat value and didn't take into account material or quality. Thanks!

Undeath tends to be more prevalent in haunted, and especially in terrifying biomes. I have several undead embarks.

Quote from: Mickey Blue on August 30, 2011, 11:01:02 pm

Honestly for maximum fun you really want dangerous monsters (ogres, etc) rather then the undead.  While the undead used to be hard core..

Exactly. My recommendations:

Terrifying badlands/rocky wasteland/desert: nightwings are flyers with an annoying tendency to rip the hands and feet of your dorfs. I swear i had 3 recruits lost limbs or life to them in a single year. Plus, there is always the feared giant desert scorpion.

Sinister/Haunted/Terrifying grassland/savanna/shrubland: ogres can inflict terrible losses early on, and harpies will ensure you will never have a dull moment.

Sinister/Haunted/Terrifying marshes: beak dogs tend to be as bad as ogres, plus harpies.

Nooooooo, not the Nightwings! My first experience with those was when I had a population of around 60.
By the time I finally killed it, it had killed over 40. It doesn't help that Nightwings are immune to pain and don't seem to be need to breath either...

Personal viewpoints really. To me, turning them off is just so any place on the map is always a good, non-hassle free embark.

With them on, you pretty much like 90% of the map a pain in the butt to embark on - unless you've mastered the art of bypassing aquifiers.

They will, however, drink booze if it's around. I think I heard that this CAN make an individual eventually "earn" the alcohol_dependent token. You can figure this out for each individual, by checking their little stat page.

I'm thinking of adding in a bookmaking industry for my mod but, well, rather then tinker and experiment myself... well, I'll just ask here.

My plan is to use leather to turn into vellum (I think that's the proper term?), I'm using... Vyok? Errr, I forget his name right now, but he made a mod to classify leather as just animal, rare, and exotic... not that I'm sure that matters. But it should be possible to make a reaction that would turn leather into vellum, which could be then turned into books?

I'm also considering making some books be used for skill training, and I wonder if there's anyway to make a 'training workshop' yield more experience? What determines how much experience you gain from using it exactly?

Also with that book reaction, I could make it just a trade good right? Is it possible to even allow the game to use the books to stud with gems or anything like that?

You could make a 'Study' reaction that uses food and alcohol to produce 'data', which you could then collate into 'R&D' or something at a papermaker's workshop. I'd suggest waiting for the interaction system in the next update if you want to make it really cool, since you could then tie spells and artifice to the documents made from the data, and teach your dwarves to fire their eyeballs like arrows, and that sort of thing.

Interaction system? First I've heard of it.
Honestly my idea only came about because I just love doing research stuff in games, ahaha. Plus it would provide some sort of... progression or something.

I'm trying to get my dwarves to disarm some caged goblins by marking their weapons for dumping and they don't seem to get around to doing it. I have a garbage zone designated and everything -- any thoughts?

Always start easy. Do you have idlers sitting around doing nothing, despite giving the order to dump the items? Dorfs are pretty infamous for being, well, pretty... dim and have a tendency to not get to things that you, the player, want done in a timely order and seem to like to goof off as long as possible.