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(I started reading the text and then my socks exploded)Do you feel that?
i vote for UsecThis is golden. You could make a joke book out of this guy. He's like the Realmfighter of mafia.
When you make yourself suspicious and then want to be voted for.... i will vote for you
as somewhere i red that people who make themselves suspicious in order to make confusion, you just vote for them.
(I red that somewhere in wizard duel 4)
What, SHADOW.He may have had an excuse for lurking then, but not now. This has been his only real post so far, and he uses it to Org it up? JTF pointed this out first:
First of all, Unvote Zathras.Kamina. This one here. It's a post to look less scummy. Which in itself is scummy.And a policy lynch doesn't make the day any shorter.Not timewise, but it makes us short town. Scum should be lynched, not town, no matter how stupid. That is the point of town.
Unvote.
Vote JanusTwoface.WIFOM here.It's a shame, I was about to extend you some noob slack but then you go and do something violently reactionary like this.Because I was thinking in the context of BM. What he's doing seems different now. I understand it from a new perspective. He's suggesting a lynch simply because of a player's rep, with no regards to losing a chance to lynch scum. I can unvote whenever the hell I want. I want answers out of the fucker.
Whyyy are you voting for JTF? You were just explaining away his actions a minute ago.
I'm done being wishy-washy, as you pointed out I was. Are you seriously suggesting I would be so stupid as to bus my scumbuddy this early just because of a small accusation?
Goddamn, I'm not that stupid.
Yeah, I've been lurking because there were certain technical difficulties. Having electricity go on and off pretty randomly, that is.
I like how the game is active.
My list'd go something like: Kamina
SHAD0W
Perhaps JTF.
Damn, I'll try to do a bit better post tomorrow.
And I'm inclined to agree. He's just parroting Org, and Leafsnail a bit too. He's done no thinking at all thus far. This post is enough to earn some blue text. Ottofar.I like how the game is active.I don't like how you're not.
My list'd go something like: Kamina
SHAD0W
Perhaps JTF.
Your list is the exact same as Org's, which is the exact same as people have been saying for a while now. Nothing new and no reasoning given. Scummy.
Kamina: If you want to convince us you're not scum, do it by negation. Show us someone else who is scum. Right now, you're #2 scum in my book.This better, Toaster?
You're doing a poor job of scum hunting now. You voted Leafsnail for lurking, then when he came back and posted, you changed your reason for voting him... to because he voted you for acting scummy? Try harder than that.
I'm reading that game too. Just give me a few hours from now to take care of some errands and read it fully.He posted that over 60 hours ago. Surely you have something by now, Azure? If your wall of text isn't done yet, please post what you have so far so we at least have something to talk about.
Afair, Azure had claimed to be frustrated from screwed wall-o-text.
We don't have the luxury of having time to slack, so fight your frustration, Azure, fight it!
You've admitted that you look like scum, and you can't deny that you look like scum. In other words, you're expecting me to take on trust that you aren't scum.I expect you to determine my scummyness from a combination of my past actions and my present ones. I intend to show I'm not scum. If you don't believe I can redeem myself, then by all means keep tunneling me.
No. They don't make me scum. They make me look like scum, sure. How am I supposed to refute that something makes me look scummy when it does?But I'm still suspicious of Leafsnail. He pops in to say nothing but that I was acting awfully scummy, and nothing else? My acting scummy has already been established. Seems like he's being less-than-useful. My vote doesn't come off until better contributions from him.So... you're admitting you did scummy things that make you scum, and are making no attempts to deny them. Nor are you refuting any of my points.
You're just saying I'm scum for pointing our your alignment. Uh, right. Whatever.
My argument about your ridiculously panicky and inconsistent reaction (in which you make a series of irrelevant and contradictory statements) is both original and valid. You've realised your actions are indefensible, so instead you've just decided to attack anyone who votes you. This is not a townie thing to do, and your flailing is looking more classically noobscum by the post.
You may have something there, but to me it just seemed like he felt obligated to explain why he wasn't posted. He eventually realized he wasn't playing, and decided to give up his position to Native.Where did he defend himself enough to show he wanted to keep playing? He didn't even defend himself IIRC. Please point out where he did.
My point was if he didn't care I don't know why about half his posts were just excuses. \
I guess you're right. The point of the question was to get some content-filled posts rolling. I think we can say it worked. You also seem to me to be town at this point.Let me rephrase the question: please show some examples of scumhunting on your part. I just want to see how you defend yourself. That's different than going back and seeing what you did. I'll remove my vote when you answer the question, unless your answer screams scum or something.
This is oh so easily something that would be answered better if you went back and looked into what I have done. Everything against Mindmaker was an attempt to scum-hunt. Day one I tried to have spade (/you) try to participate and got nowhere. I tried to get Jet to actually provide some freaking evidence and he did not. People just seemed to stop answering alot of my questions by day two and so I couldn’t get anywhere.
But seriously it would be better for both of us if you just looked back through what I have posted so far and made your own opinion because honestly I think you are just asking what Zatharas asked you in Paranormal and am not totally sure if you even know what answers you are looking for.
I’d seriously be happy to justify any of my actions to help assert that I am town but you are gona have to give me specific actions that need justification (find quote ask how I intended it to benifit town ect ect). I mean I was almost positive Ottofar was scum and do not know how Jet wasn’t and pretty much everyone else made those same mistakes.
Still I am at least glad things seem to be moving again I just wish the others would get in here and start posting .
Fixed that for you. See sorcerer's apprentice mafia to see scum Jet. He sucks just as bad at scum as town.I've found a good game to observe, if anyone else wants to see Azure play scum. BM XVI.
I haven't read it yet, but it should be very enlightening.
Reading now, and I think if we had looked at this earlier we would have realised Jet is just bad at mafia
Well in that game nobody could get a good read on Azure as scum eitherI'm about halfway through that game, and only USEC seemed to have him.And while his playstyle was quite similar to this game it ended to early for me to get anything really.
Though I notice that he once again he wasn't the first to vote against Jet who was lynched on day one.
Agree with 1st paragraph. He hasn't really started anything, just backed stuff up. Please provide examples if you disagree, Azure.So if Azure is indeed scum, then he is being very, very good at it - no slips and an extremely helpful outlook for the town.I agree wholeheartedly with this the biggest problem of course being if anyone could play the whole game as mafia and get through it without any obvious slips it would probably be Azure. Although out of all his votes so far Azure hasn’t actually started a single one except against Ragnarok which was for lurking and not likely to turn up as a lynch, not that that is overly scummy.
And I looked through to see anything between him and Ragnarok but turned up nothing. They didn’t specifically look like they had distanced themselves on purpose and neither did they look to close. Ragnarok was definitely online a lot more often than he posted and seemed to be actively lurking which is a lot like I played when I was first scum but of course we are different people. What do you guys think Active lurking scum or just uninterested town?
Either way I would really like to see azure post his thoughts.
Either way I would really like to see azure post his thoughts.Where did he defend himself enough to show he wanted to keep playing? He didn't even defend himself IIRC. Please point out where he did.sorry for not doing stuff, stuff happened. Nothing to say, really. Sad that we're not doing so well.Although this post made on day two right after we screwed up on Ottofar and lost Kamina Mark I makes me think Ragnarok was either the worst townie ever or actively lurking scum just desperately trying to post anything. Most of Ragnarok's other posts were just excuses as to why he wasn't playing...If he really was a uninterested townie who didn't care about our cause this makes me wonder why he seemed to still want to stay alive and in the game.
Just because I voted you doesn't mean I don't want to work with you. And that's a very weak argument. I don't intend to lynch you, not yet anyways.Flintus, tell me why you're not scum, and why I should remove this vote.Simple answer is of course because if I die we lose the game. So far this day nobody has been helpful and instead of just forcing posts by voting why don’t you go back through a couple of days and see what you can find Kamina. We have to actually work together to get evidence seeing as it’s day 3 and we really have barely any idea.
Otto, would you care to copy Leafsnail any more? Even his arguments weren't original.Just noticed you weren't lurking, it was a blizzard hitting your electricity. Though, other than the lurking bit, my point still stands.
It looks to me like you waltzed in here to avoid getting attacked for lurking, and decided to make a safe vote, and leave without actually doing anything.
Please contribute.
I think we may need another extension, we're not getting anywhere.Agree.
We have a lot of speculation going on here, but we need some solid tells in order to make a decision that won't lose the game.
There was a lot of speculation about Azure on my part, and Native did some too. None of it went further than just speculation, so if Azure is indeed scum, then he is being very, very good at it - no slips and an extremely helpful outlook for the town. Anyone know if he's really that much experienced? For now, unless a good objection is made, I'll consider him town.Let me check the games he's played in. I may have an idea.
