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Quote from: webadict on November 11, 2010, 01:20:13 pm

Seriously, posting three words a day is going to get you killed no matter what. It makes you look like you're hiding something.

Because I am. I would be hiding my 24/7 scummy attitude.

Mostly caught up, I'm back on webadict for being cryptic and unhelpful. Web, who from the six lurkiest I mentioned earlier are most likely to be scumlurking, in your opinion?

Quote from: KaminaSquirtle on November 10, 2010, 11:22:06 pm

Ok, I'm not sure I understand exactly what buddying is.  When I asked webadict why he voted toaster, that's buddying, but defending isn't?  I'm confused.

Could be, could be.  I have been aggressive towards him, though not necessarily for the right reasons.  I'll remember to keep that in mind.

What are you more interested in when you ask webadict why he's voting Toaster? Are you trying to make Toaster think highly of you so that he won't suspect you in the future (because you saved him from the nasty webadict), or do you want to know what's going on in webadict's mind?

Buddying is the former. It's done by scum so that townies will ignore them as they go on in the game. Sometimes it's really hard to detect, but usually it's pretty obvious. If you want to see an example of really horrible, mindnumbingly obvious buddying, go look at all if Jetsquirrel's posts in Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia.

Saying another person is town isn't automatically buddying. Usually you need to examine just what their motives are for doing it.

Quote from: KaminaSquirtle on November 10, 2010, 09:41:12 pm

Why are you buddying me?

I'm not. I want Org to get up to date and defend his claims (which he isn't doing).

Quote from: KaminaSquirtle on November 10, 2010, 09:41:12 pm

Why are you buddying me?

Calm down. Just because somebody says you're acting like town doesn't mean they're buddying you.

It's a difficult judgment to make to say when people are buddying. Usually it's noticeable and intentional, it feels forced, or it's uncalled for, or it's completely unnecessary.

Do you think JTF is trying to get on your good side here by saying your actions look like town? That's usually the question you need to ask.

Normally I despise grandiose contributions that ultimately don't really mean anything but that's actually quite handy.

It should go without saying that this should not substitute content you would normally post if you didn't have that thingamajig. If it does I will attempt to lynch you. I've seen too many scum try to skate by with doing nothing by making voluminous but empty contributions (Leafsnail immediately comes to mind).

Also, attempts to proclaim himself an "easy target" is just an appeal to emotion- trying to hide behind being new to avoid a lynch.

Buncha stuff.

I am already voting Kamina, no need to change.
He was very wishy washy, followed by I give up, and a few other things I said earlier and have no deisre to draw bakc out since they have already been said, you should know this from reading this thread.

Not much, Im still reading.
Here is my thinking of Shadow, though. Distracting us to lynch him, maybe Spore Spreader, HOWEVER, possibly trying to get us off buddy SQuirtle
Maybe, just a line of thought I had

Quote from: Org on November 10, 2010, 08:13:26 pm

I am already voting Kamina, no need to change.
He was very wishy washy, followed by I give up, and a few other things I said earlier and have no deisre to draw bakc out since they have already been said, you should know this from reading this thread.

A *lot* of things have been said in this thread. Including basically an about face from Kamina since everything you've brought up.  So do you have anything new or any thoughts about his behavior since you voted him?

Quote from: Org on November 10, 2010, 08:27:07 pm

Not much, Im still reading.
Here is my thinking of Shadow, though. Distracting us to lynch him, maybe Spore Spreader, HOWEVER, possibly trying to get us off buddy SQuirtle
Maybe, just a line of thought I had

Just don't wander off...

The idea of him running a smoke screen is an interesting idea, but I don't think that they would.  The only reason that would make sense is if they're both scum and Kamina has a *much* more powerful role that they need tonight and they panicked.  Otherwise, they're wasting one to save another.  It's possible, I just don't think it's that likely.

Those posts there, I'm asking questions. Gauging how willing others are to attempt to help out someone who's basically gasping for air. Toaster wasn't helping well, I suppose in a way he was though. You? Nope, I see no attempts to do so, just attempts at conviction.

My vote stays.

Kamina:  Bold is my post, underline is yours.  Why do you insist on echoing my argument?  You're doing nothing original here, just (literally) repeating my words back at him.

SHADOWdump is a stupid topic of conversation. Let's change the subject.

Quote from: webadict on November 10, 2010, 09:37:39 am

You can't. Not effectively. Ever hear no publicity is bad publicity? Well, that's a lie. You can't turn bad attention around on other people. You just have to get rid of it and then turn it on other people.

But yeah, again, if I'm to die so soon, I got to use whatever resources I have available to me, and right now all I have is everyone aiming guns at me. So hey, maybe I'll be the first to use it well?

No, not voting at all is worse.

Quote from: KaminaSquirtle on November 10, 2010, 07:47:20 am

Quote from: webadict on November 10, 2010, 06:54:40 am

And we should probably lynch Toaster.

Explain.  Voting without a reason is worse than not voting at all.
Wheeerre are yooouuuu, Leafsnail?  Stop lurking!

Kamina:  You're buddying me.  If you cared about reasonless votes, you would have said something to Web when he did the exact same thing to you.