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Unvote so Vector isn't hammered. Still waiting to figure out what is going on today.

NJW apparently tried to action me, but got redirected/blocked. As far as I know, no other statuses with me have changed. I've give out another choice, I think the target is still considering, which is a good idea IMO.

Vector from yesterday until otherwise, because Web was indeed evil.

I only got confirmation that I had done my action. My target should probably wait a bit to say who they are, given it's easy to confirm and there isn't too much info around them this night yet. Also, don't assume it's exactly the same choice.

Upon reread of the end few pages, and an actual need for replacement, I'm not against offing Webadict to make the game run smoother. I don't think NJW not hammering Webadict is too much of a tell either way, except for them not both being Mafia.

Quote from: EuchreJack on October 21, 2022, 04:13:42 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on October 21, 2022, 04:11:38 pm

NJW and TolyK are terrible lynches.

What, did NJW give you bribe money too?

NJW gave me the best gift of all.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Webadict's motivation.

Ok, but seriously why not NJW?

Missed this question by Jack.

Quote from: TolyK on October 20, 2022, 06:40:17 am

Quote from: notquitethere on October 20, 2022, 05:55:56 am

TolyK, did ye ever explain why you left it until the end to claim miller? That's a borderline hanging offence.

No, I did not explain. For one, I didn't (and don't) intend on remaining a miller for long. For two, I wasn't too active earlier in day 1. Finally, by now I've claimed a significant portion of my current role (and part of my non-current role); I was quite hesitant to give too much too fast, but after the other claim had realized that claiming miller after being investigated is quite dumb & counterproductive.

And I suspected (correctly!) that inspects are pretty much nerfed in this game anyways. Turns out target redirection is a big thing.

@Tolyk: WTF is up with this "I'm a miller yesterday, but I'll presumably waste some action just to not be a miller, even though I'm already tainted anyways." I don't see this as helpful to finding Scum. Could you explain further?

Having the miller part taken away isn't the main point of that action, but rather switching roles (outside the game, not with a player). Since I intend to switch at some point in the near future (for other reasons), I won't be a miller. I'll let everyone know if/when that happens.

And I've claimed that part before (e.g. becoming a Dragon), so yeah.

That's honestly a good point. TolyK, why would you spend an action to frame yourself as town? That doesn't actually change anything for you.

See above.

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There's no info to be got by lynching Webadict. He can just go shock himself at night or slip on some ice or something.

Basically invalidating the whole Day 2 was not a nice move. Like, not cool. I had to throw it out, disregarding whatever Webadict says, and trying again. (That's actually a lot faster because hooo boy does Webadict post a lot for someone who doesn't want to be here...). Appreciate the vote bot runs, though.

I'm assuming Toony is town (due to choice info) (if you're mafia then gg), so I'll trust this:

<probably most readable post summarizing the claims>

I think there's four possibilities here:

1. Jack is hiding something.
2. NQT is hiding something.
3. Webadict also Soaked Jack and is hiding it.
4. Someone else Soaked just Jack and is hiding it.

(Also Toony congrats on Mythic.)

I'm mostly assuming Jim is town due to not taking the game seriously (ok and everything checks out).

The whole "mod error" thing and Vector then "no comment" on revive giving and also inspecting web makes it seem like they're trying to buddy to webadict. Also just old familiarity, of course, but in the game context it was just baseless buddying from both of them (ok I said I'd ignore Web's comments...). So, basically no usable information. (Update w/ latest post - mod error situation seems reasonable but still, not much to go by).

One thing I've noticed is that Jack has just... come up with several theories during D2 that I can't find the reason for (no quotes, only notes - "what if x?" is not useful & just seems like active thinking).

I really have no clue about NJW, all I got written down was confirmation of Juice actioning them D1 and very likely confirmation of N1 action.

kw64 - townish, not much read from me except that there weren't any action contradictions. Could've still done the Max kill while redirecting?

NQT is active & was basically led astray by Webadict and so I really doubt they're the same alignment. However, could've faked the gunsmith information, given the apparent self-error (in a successful attempt to get out of being caught lying).

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So somewhere between EuchreJack, Vector, NQT, Knightwing64, Nakeen and juicebox from my count. I'd go for Vector (primarily for webadict-buddying) or Jack / NQT (most info from interactions + could be lying about N1).

If I missed something particularly important, please tell me.

Well, dead town usually is confirmed town...

TolyK, did ye ever explain why you left it until the end to claim miller? That's a borderline hanging offence.

No, I did not explain. For one, I didn't (and don't) intend on remaining a miller for long. For two, I wasn't too active earlier in day 1. Finally, by now I've claimed a significant portion of my current role (and part of my non-current role); I was quite hesitant to give too much too fast, but after the other claim had realized that claiming miller after being investigated is quite dumb & counterproductive.

And I suspected (correctly!) that inspects are pretty much nerfed in this game anyways. Turns out target redirection is a big thing.